Dear Graeme, I understand your point completely but I fail to see where are errors (if any) in the cited pdf document. (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.151.6187) They even show data with adjusted illuminant where the still get acceptable results. Now having read it two times, I just don't see the flaw(s)... Do you have any clue? Best regards, Auke Nauta Graeme Gill wrote: > A problem with this paper is that they claim to have solved the > problem of a change in scene illumination. I can't see how they > have done that, since it's inherent in tri-stimulus colorimetry, > when the camera does not meet the Luther condition. The only > way of solving this is to spectrally characterize the cameras > sensors, and this is very hard to do without using a monochrometer > based measurement technique, and they don't refer to any of the > more difficult techniques for avoiding that. > > If they are merely referring to the fact that by default an instrument > will read D50 based XYZ values from a reflective target, then this > is easily tackled by measuring the spectral reflectance, the scene > illuminance spectrum, and combining them to compute the XYZ > values for the scene illumination (Argyll will do this if you > supply a spectral input chart reference for instance.) > > For their technique to work for different scene illuminants, they > would have to use the scene illuminant as the backlight for their > test target, and re-characterize each camera for that illuminant, > which is exactly the same situation as that for a reflective target. > > Graeme Gill.