[argyllcms] Re: Absolute colorimetric - dark saturated colours excessively light
- From: "Alastair M. Robinson" <blackfive@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:53:38 +0000
Hi Gerhard,
Gerhard Fuernkranz wrote:
Alastair,
I do not understand what you want to "solve"? What you explain, is the
expected behaviour. You simply encountered the gamut limitations of your
printer on different paper types, and a colorimetric transformation to
the printer color space clips colors which are out of gamut on the
printer to the gamut boundary. And with the 2nd transformation from
printer color space to sRGB, you get a soft proof, i.e. if you would
actually print the image after conversion to the printer color space,
then the print should look similar to the soft proofs you had posted above.
Thanks for the response.
I realise that the dark saturated colours are out-of-gamut - but I was a
bit startled by how much lighter these patched became.
I was under the impression that the usual gamut-mapping strategy was to
sacrifice saturation in order to preserve luminance; the opposite seems
to be happening here.
Look at the plain paper version:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/robinsonb5/IT8_Plain_Proof.jpg
Device black would be a closer visual match for columns 3 and 4 than
what the profile has chosen!
Here's another soft-proof using a profile generated by Profile Prism,
using (IIRC) the Tesco paper:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/robinsonb5/ProofPrism.jpg
It's not nearly such a good profile overall (because it's made using a
scanner, not a colorimeter), but it does better than the Argyll profiles
in columns 2-4.
All the best,
--
Alastair M. Robinson
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Alastair,
I do not understand what you want to "solve"? What you explain, is the expected behaviour. You simply encountered the gamut limitations of your printer on different paper types, and a colorimetric transformation to the printer color space clips colors which are out of gamut on the printer to the gamut boundary. And with the 2nd transformation from printer color space to sRGB, you get a soft proof, i.e. if you would actually print the image after conversion to the printer color space, then the print should look similar to the soft proofs you had posted above.
Thanks for the response.
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- [argyllcms] Re: Absolute colorimetric - dark saturated colours excessively light
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