[arachne] Re: duplicate received.....

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:30:38 +1000, Ron Clarke wrote:

> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!

> Hi Folks,

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:42 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Just now got home from work and grabbed my email.
>> This duplicate of Greg's post was waiting for me.

> So it is NOT just me !   I feel better now.

>> The entire file is pasted-in here......
>> --- begin paste-in ----

>> Subject: Re: Ethernet
>> From: "Greg Mayman" <gmone@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:40 +0930

> <snippo>

>> --- end paste-in ---

>> As we see.... virtually no header info at-all.
>> There's not even a 'To:' line in the header.
>> There are no lines specifying through-which mail server(s) it passed.

> You should look at the code when the original is in Arachne's Inbox -
> every server is listed in full, including the "arachne-bounce".

Not in that particular one they were'nt.

The entire .CNM file as received by Arachne is precisely what I pasted
into my posting.

There was absolutely noting in the header to identify anything at-all.

The entire header consisted of those 4 lines.
(subject, from, reply-to & date)

>> However.... since the domain name of Greg's email address has
>> been 'Xed out' ... .that is a dead give-away that it almost certainly
>> passed through the email server at freelists.org and then was sent on
>> out to me and most likely _all_ list members.
>> However, as-of right now... there is only one copy of that message in
>> the freelists archive.
>> http://www.freelists.org/archives/arachne/10-2008/msg00152.html

> And I got two copies of this exact posting from Glenn in the same
> mail download.

> Here I attach the top of the source of Glenn's posting (to which I am
> replying:

OK... this one which you pasted-in had the 'full headers'

Did the other one also have 'full headers' ?

Or was it like the duplicate I got ?
(minimal headers, and specifically no 'To:' field)

As to this line....

Sender: arachne-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

All legitimate messages from this mailing list (not necessarily duplicates),
have that line in the headers.

Having 'bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx ' somewhere in the headers seems to be 'standard'
to various mailing list setups.

IIRC,
The headers of the messages from Coollist also had something similar.

BRB
___

Yep... there it is in the 'Return-path' line of the headers.

Return-path:
<1069382642.3225827484.310417=glennmcc=cisnet.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
__________________________________________________^^^^^^______________

> =================
> Return-path: <arachne-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Envelope-to: ariadne@xxxxxxxxxx
> Delivery-date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:23:51 -0400
> Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net ([206.53.239.180]
> helo=turing.freelists.org)
> by syd-srv06.ezyreg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
> (envelope-from <arachne-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>)
> id 1Kuwwh-0001pq-2Y
> for ariadne@xxxxxxxxxx; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:23:51 -0400
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id
> 2B448A97AE9;
> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:54 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1])
> by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
> with ESMTP id 31708-09; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:54 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id
> 7AA8DA97A5F;
> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:53 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list arachne); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:51 -0400
> (EDT)
> X-Original-To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Delivered-To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id
> 40AF1A97ABF
> for <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1])
> by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
> with ESMTP id 31741-02 for <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com
> [68.142.198.213])
> by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id
> 05494A97A5F
> for <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: (qmail 10597 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 22:22:10 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO sbcglobal.net) (glennmcc@xxxxxxxxxxxx with login)
> by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 22:22:09 -0000
> X-YMail-OSG:
>
cy0TgtcVM1ng2o6xCCnXH_hHfhcEo5UNOhCmQMcqYvIg7pq4DweLQMBCujpmom73M_uhvaV1KRWKWe3rXVssbS6PzXyIwzq2Y9rWzySX6Ns.73yoOW5b9GGxJE1OZ6.
> zx8ymX9ZtTjsUuVwzX_u.KWlO6X6mZBN.m2Hz9ziVZo8eNzMQ8g7ybMorwM-
> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
> From: "Glenn McCorkle" <glennmcc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Organization: Arachne Fan Club
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:22:42 -0500
> X-Mailer: Arachne v1.93;UE12,r11
> To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [arachne] duplicate received.....
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
> Message-Id: <20081028222251.05494A97A5F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain
> X-archive-position: 53
> X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
> Sender: arachne-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx         *******************
> Errors-to: arachne-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> X-original-sender: glennmcc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Precedence: normal
> Reply-to: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> List-help: <mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=help>
> List-unsubscribe: <arachne-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe>
> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
> List-Id: arachne <arachne.freelists.org>
> X-List-ID: arachne <arachne.freelists.org>
> List-subscribe: <arachne-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe>
> List-owner: <mailto:wizard57m@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> List-post: <mailto:arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> List-archive: <http://www.freelists.org/archives/arachne>
> X-list: arachne
> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=
> X-Spam-Score:
> X-Spam-Bar:
> X-Spam-Flag: NO
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!

> Just now got home from work and grabbed my email.

> ====================================  End paste.

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> Regards,
>    Ron

> Ron Clarke
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