[arachne] Re: Which person am I ??? [multi-ISPs]
- From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe.daSilva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:35:14 +1100
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The problem is changing between different ACF's, "belonging" to
different ISP's, while still online, without getting into trouble with
DNS restrictions. The solution I provided effectively gives "DNS
independence", because the different ACF's can have the same
'0.0.0.0' DNS address settings.
The reason for wanting to stay online is that in Oz, most ISP
plans involve a fixed charge per month, irrespective of the time
spent online. Local telephone calls are a not free, but are untimed.
Therefore it costs nothing to stay online, it costs another call
charge to disconnect then dial again. In other parts of the world,
call charges may have a different basis, so the motivations may
be different.
Joe.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L.D. Best [SMTP:l.d.best@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:57 AM
> To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [arachne] Which person am I ??? [multi-ISPs]
>
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>
> I had to think and think (and at this stage, that can be PAINFUL) before
> I started to believe I had some idea of ??? .... Then I read Joe's
> solution and got lost again.
>
> I can't understand the "why" of staying online to read/respond to mail.
> It's totally foreign to my "dial-up mentality" side. The "LAN
> mentality" side has no problem ... since that's me 24/7/366 (it's leap
> year).
>
> The "who am I?" part I can handle ... it can be a matter of setting up
> different MAIL directories for each personality/ISP [at one time there
> were 5 different users on my Arachne install]. And yes, it should be
> do-able "on the fly" since there's already a batch file involved ...
> copying mail to a different directory between download batches, or some
> other such scheme?? (Since I can't understand the why, the 'how' is still
> very indefinite.) Or there is the option of setting up DFilter correctly,
> and sorting the 'Receiving' Inbox prior to starting to read (this I can
> help with easily) from dedicated mail subdirectories. In that case, since
> the mail being read would be from only a single ISP, the acf file for that
> ISP could be "loaded" prior to reading (or replying, if you remember) that
> particular batch of new e-mail.
>
> Using the DFilter approach, you would need only one ACF per ISP, and a
> subdirectory in mail for each. It would still require human intervention
> to load 'the correct ACF' with each switch to a new sub-directory (at
> least at my skill level), but it could be done on-line or off-line fairly
> easily.
>
> One nice aspect of the DFilter approach could be even higher refinement of
> the sorts -- like separating out the list mail within each ISP batch, etc.
> In that way you can choose to quickly scan for expected messages because
> only certain sources (lists, ISPs, etc) would be sorted to each
> sub-directory folder.
>
> But I can't refine a way to handle the 'problem' specifically when I
> can't get my brain around the specific definition of what needs fixing.
> <G> [This is not meant to imply that the problem was not clearly stated.
> It simply means *I* have difficulty.]
>
> l.d.
> ====
>
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 02:15:39 -0500 (EST), Arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > ------------------------------
>
> > From: "Greg Mayman" <gmone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:50:59 +0930
> > Subject: [arachne] mail muddles
>
> > Is there a simple way of quickly and easily changing Arachne's
> > mail setup for different providers without reloading the whole
> > configuration?
>
> > I am a registered user of two different ISP services; let's call
> > them ABC and XYZ.
>
> > For various reasons I wish to use one of them most of the time,
> > but on occasions I may wish to use the other. So I have two
> > configuration files, ABC.ACF and XYZ.ACF.
>
> > On startup, I run a batch file that allows me to choose which one
> > of these to copy over ARACHNE.CFG before calling ARACHNE.BAT.
>
> > Both of these files have mail download commands of the form
> > POP3://name1:password1$mail.ABC.com.au
> > and
> > POP3://name2:password2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > for shift-F3 and shift-F4 user defined hotkeys. This allows me
> > to download mail from both ISP's mailboxes.
>
> > But writing and sending mail is not so easy. The outgoing
> > messages will have the From: and ReplyTo: fields set according to
> > whichever configuration is loaded.
> <snip>
>
>
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