[arachne] Re: User-friendliness or lack thereof in Arachne

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Eric S. Emerson wrote:

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Jason,
I can see your idea of "a little care" is far different from mine. You just spent your time
describing all the things one needs to do to avoid
viruses, spyware, and trojans, etc. and then you
call it a little care.

I suppose our definitions are different. Well, the firewall should be a given for any OS you're hitting the net with. And if you're running windows you just HAVE to run antivirus software. Those aren't equivalent to changing a car's engine. They're equivalent to keeping air in the tires. So the effort really is minimal. And going back to 'most users', the complexity of doing the kinds of stuff 'most users' want to do today far outways the complexity of using protective measures.

I submit in 'most peoples' eyes trying to figure out why dos says they're short on memory when they know good and well they bought a machine with hundreds of megabytes of it, would be closer to changing the engine in their car than using protective measures for malware.

You sound like the race car
driver who talks about changing his engine for
the race tomorrow and says its no big thing.
It's not for him, but the average car owner/driver
will never change an engine in a life time. I have
friends who make their living using computers
and are engineers who design computerized controls, who don't use their home W$doze computer because they can't get some spyware
off it or don't have the time it takes to find the crap
and get rid of it.


I happen to be one of those who makes his living off computers. I know people like you do who are 'professionals' but can't solve relatively minors windows problems on their home computer. Doesn't mean they're experts or even good. There are plenty of Drs who cut off the wrong foot. Doesn't mean picking the correct foot is hard. Reminds me of one guy I worked with who was a linux admin at work. He overheard me telling a coworker he should give linux a try. This 'admin' said linux wasn't suitable as a desktop. After a good amount of pressing for reasons why he came up with you couldn't use a webcam on msn with linux. He didn't say much after I had an MSN webchat session going in about 5 minutes.

I still don't like windows much but somehow claiming it's harder for the average person to use than dos isn't such a valid argument. I'd buy the argument if we're comparing it to OS X but not dos.

Malware is a big windows problem... but for the same reason it's devestating if you get a virus in dos. That's because a regular user of the system has access to too much. That's not all windows fault(well, not as of NT anyway). Software developers seem to refuse software that will let them run as normal users. Rest assured that if another OS approaches windows in market share, they'll be targets for viruses. And those 'most users' will succomb to them on whatever OS that is. Hopefully, that OS will be one that isolates a regular use from the important system files.

The bottom line is the best OS is the one you like best. They all have their pros and cons.

Eric

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:56:06 -0600 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx> writes:


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The point is while windows has many things we all don't like, a little care can make a big difference.

Jason Dodd wrote:





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