[arachne] Re: UTF-8
- From: Steve <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:37:48 -0400 (EDT)
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Christof Lange wrote:
On 11 Aug 08 at 16:51, Steve <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In looking around at apps that can "do" Unicode (composing as well as
displaying), I ran across a very DOS-look app called mined 2000. Come to
find out, it is available for DOS.
Thanks for the link, Steve. Mined can actually "do" Unicode. But it
will not be able to display anything, unless the current font does
not support the international characters. And as DOS does not have
Unicode fonts, but only different 8bit character sets, mined will
just do, what any editor can do: edit a text in a 8bit character
set, before you convert the result to the encoding of your choice -
probably to UTF-8.
I've just installed mined on this machine (8859-1 environment on
FreeBSD) and it does show U8 in the mode indicator, but the characters are
much more limited here.
Ã? wrìtÑ? thiÃ? in U8 mode (UTF)
Í wrìté thîß in L1 mode (most likely 8859-1)
So the DOS version of this application is of
rather limited value. And as it does not even allow you to work in
the classical DOS fonts (cp852, cp866), you will need to load ISO-
fonts just for this one application...
I think they must be included with the program. I managed to write with
Greek and Japanese characters before I got lost and couldn't find my way
back. I can find no Japanese system fonts installed on the machine, and
the only Greek fonts seem to have to do with X, which doesn't seem to have
any relevance to mined.
The Debian mined v.14 package has little in common with the FreeBSD
mined v.14 port. Some of the menus have completely different options,
and the FreeBSD console version is different still. I don't know how much
of the differences are due to simple config options set at build time, how
much is due to different system fonts being present, or what all else.
Whereas in Linux this seems to be a nice tool. I will try to
get some Unicode fonts.
I think I need to read and play a lot more before I say anything other
than, "It's a strange little editor." ;-)
Arachne at FreeLists
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- [arachne] Re: UTF-8
- From: Christof Lange
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On 11 Aug 08 at 16:51, Steve <arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In looking around at apps that can "do" Unicode (composing as well as displaying), I ran across a very DOS-look app called mined 2000. Come to find out, it is available for DOS.
Thanks for the link, Steve. Mined can actually "do" Unicode. But it will not be able to display anything, unless the current font does not support the international characters. And as DOS does not have Unicode fonts, but only different 8bit character sets, mined will just do, what any editor can do: edit a text in a 8bit character set, before you convert the result to the encoding of your choice - probably to UTF-8.
So the DOS version of this application is of rather limited value. And as it does not even allow you to work in the classical DOS fonts (cp852, cp866), you will need to load ISO- fonts just for this one application...
Whereas in Linux this seems to be a nice tool. I will try to get some Unicode fonts.
- [arachne] Re: UTF-8
- From: Christof Lange