[arachne] Router on dialup, was Ray's Alt-D

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:11:32 -0500 (CDT), Rob <robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:       
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> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!

> Hey, Bastiaan
> I hope this doesn't sound dumb, but I'm quite curious
> and more than justa little confused by your posts. Are
> you using a router on dialup? 

I use a router and an ethernetcard. The ethernetcard is installed by
autoexec.bat that installs the driver: RTSPKT.EXE at 0x60

I had to use windows to find out the numbers for NameServer, Gateway and
Netmask (and a little help of Glennmcc).

In principle I now could dial-in (activate the build in ADSL-modem) but
that modem needs JavaScript commands... :-(

For some time I used windows to open the connection with a second
computer... not nice but this way it was possible to use Arachne.

A few month of thinking and experimenting were needed to solve the
JavaScript problem. In the 420 page documentation of the router/modem
the commands are discriped... and could be given in plain text by
telnet.
Another month to sort out EXACTLY how to do it with help of a friend
with more programming nowledge than i have...

In Arachne Connect is left blank so she thinks I am already on line.
A connect.bat that plays the telnet script is used to activate the
modem.
Functions very well in DOS and much faster than the connection in WinXP.

There is still one thing to solve... the router cann't be used to
connect to the other computer. Not in DOS, not with Arachne.
(Windows98 does it, same computer)
How to set up the network?





Also can't you just use
> Bootp or DHCP between your computer and router? Or
> even static addresses? Couldn't you just load an ethernet
> card and driver, and stay always on between the router and
> computer? Couldn't autoexec.bat load a NIC driver?

The com ports at the computer are not used... just the RJ-45 jack on the
ethernet card.

> Are you using a com program? Sorry for all the questions.
> I tried running Arachne in dosemu and tried to connect to
> my router with no luck, but I really didn't spend any
> time trying before I gave up. Wondering how you did it.
> Rob

More questions? Ask, but I am not sure I know the right answers ;-)

Regards, Bastiaan

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Bastiaan Edelman wrote:

>> There can be a reason... the packetdriver is used to get acces to the
>> router and from there I have to dial in to the WWW using telnet.

>> Using Alt+D says Arachne is already on line which is not true since the
>> telnet commands should be given first to the router/modem.

>> When I use connect.bat direct (installed it under Shift+F6) then all is
>> OK but when Alt+D activates the same connect.bat "Arachne is already
>> on line" and nothing happens... the timer resets though.

>> Alt+D => connect.bat
>> connect.bat:
>> telnet.exe @connect.scr (=telnet script to connect the modem)
>> echo online > ppp.log
>> exit

>> Alt+H => hangup.bat
>> hangup.bat:
>> rem connect\termin.com 0x60
>> call discon.bat
>> if exist ppp.log del ppp.log

>> discon.bat:
>> telnet.exe @discon.scr (=telnet script to disconnect)
>> if exist ppp.log del ppp.log
>> exit

>> Timer resets on connect and disconnect... perhaps she is counting as
>> Arachne thinks she is still on line?

>>>> You are assuming that everyone uses Arachne as you do.  When using Arachne

>>> Nope, I'm quite aware of the fact that things could be very different
>>> with constant connections.

>>>> in OS/2 one can jump to program window list, delete the session and restart
>>>> Arachne, press Alt-D and re-establish the connection.  The modem did not 
>>>> lose
>>>> the connection.  Arachne thinks it never disconnected.
>>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> However, my core always knows when it's connected, unlike std. core
>>> which, if you move to another copy or Arachne, thinks it's offline untill
>>> you press Alt+D -- even tho that Alt+D doesn't really do anything but
>>> create ppp.log. My core sniffs out the packet driver directly.

>> An installed packet driver does NOT mean Arachne is on line!!

>>>> Please leave Alt-D available anytime.

>>> Yeah, I'd need a consensus to change it.

>> Regards, Bastiaan

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>>> Regards,

>>> Ray Andrews
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