[arachne] Re: How to fix this puter?

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Eric,
I never ran 2k or XP on FAT, since NTFS is a far superior
filesystem, much more stable and certainly more secure. I
ran alot of DOS programs including Arachne and Nettamer.
EDIT comes with the system, and I used it all the time cuz
I hated notepad. XP also has an app you can add programs to
and will run in 'realmode'. After trying various flavours of
win9x, which I feel are clunky JUNK, I definitely preferred
the commandline of 2k and xp to the DOS 7.x in 9x. It's
much more configurable too. The telnet and ftp in 9x are some
of the worst programs I ever encountered, much improved in
NT. Sam has a problem that needs fixed
and I don't believe it is because of CMD.exe or NTFS. I
would give him the same advice as glennmcc tho. Delete windo$e
and install DOS and Linux. Or some other better system than M$.
Rob

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Eric S. Emerson wrote:


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Hi Sam H.,
                    I explained that for you in my
previous post.  It's  because the XP is
setup with NT file system.  When setup
w/NT file system it uses cmd.exe instead
of command.com.

Eric

On Tue, 19 May 2009 14:29:49 GMT sheywood@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

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Haven't read full thread on this, but ...

1.  XP does not have a "DOS box" (there are some available apps

that

work to do that.)

2.  If you want to try to run at the cmd level (required for DOS
programs) you need to know that batch files will sometimes work

with BAT

suffix, but ms advises changing suffix to CMD so system recognizes

it

and uses the appropriate part (there no longer is command.com in

XP).


3. Some DOS exe programs run just fine, but they will be full

screen and

some fonts may be munged.  All my attempts to resize window were

failures.


        HOWEVER ... there *is* a way to set up a separate instance

of CMD, with

a screen icon and parameters set to where you want them ... window

or

full screen, choice of colors, etc.  I just thought of this

possible use

because I'd lost that icon and choice & tried to redo it yesteray

(only

partially right at present).

If anyone wants more info on this, I hereby declare it a "do it
yourself" process ... <GGGGGG>

To see the whole ball of wax, and learn how to do all sorts of

neat

things (maybe) go to <http://www.allenware.com> ... I'm referring

to the

"Batch File Course" under "Free demonstrations"

I never managed to get Arachne to run on my XP machine.  However,

this

controlled window direct link to cmd *might* be a possibility ...

I

suggest you do what the required is to set up the 'playpen' batch

window

and experiment from there.  Using the technique they show, it

might even

be possible to establish a "cmd window" as part of a "script" to

run DOS

or other programs.

l.d.



Ok, so, strictly technically speaking, maybe XP doesn't have a
"dos-box",
but it does have a dos-box emulator that looks like a real dos-box
and it
is supposed to be capable of running most dos apps.  I have other
XP's
computers that work for running dos apps.

BTW, the Pentium IV XP desktop that I rescued from the landfill will
run
and process DOS batch files but it won't run DOS programs, such as
"edit.com"
and many other DOS-based utilities that come with XP and are on this
computer.
Very strange!

Sam
Heywood
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