Larry, we've come to the same conclusion-tweaking Dakota designs AND doing a first scrap sewout to look for problems....I can usually get rid of 15-20% of the stitching just by going through and watching the sewout and making notes...excess underlayment, stitching on top of stitching on top of stitching that can be removed, density that can be cut down. I've had designs from the 'book' with densities as low as 3 in them-and to me, that's a guaranteed thread breaker! And a lot of times I take the sewing 'field' and throw away the premade underlayment, running stitches, etc. and just have the designshop create a new 'underlayment' and even new fill pattern-and end up hundreds of stitches smaller. It's helping me a lot to tear their designs apart and figure out how or why something is done-learning to set up a color 'sequence' to get rid of extra trims, color changes, etc. Slow learning but I'm getting there! And using the scrap sewout is mandatory on any Dakota design-after we sewed a 'yin yang' right out of the treasure chest onto a denim jacket-and too late found half the design flipped over upside down and backwards! Had to resew over it 2 times to hide it! (another waste of money-the 'stitch eraser'....what a joke! Had 2 of the identical shavers upstairs IN THE MEDICINE CABINET that cost under $20!!!!!) Only thing we use it for now is to 'shave' down the nap on Christmas Stocking for cleanup after sewing! Roland