[amayausers] Re: pricing advice thank you

Thank you Roland, for the great feedback and suggestions.  And thanks again 
to everyone who took the time to answer.  I'm always learning valuable 
things from y'all!

Best,
Sandra Walker
A&E Clothing and Embroidery
936-588-1015  800-291-6953
Montgomery, Texas
www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:46 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise


> Sandra...you need to find a subcontractor that will supply the
> shirts, etc.
> for your job-instead of you shipping both ways.
> I do a lot of small sub jobs for other engraving shops and such-and
> make it
> clear up front that I prefer to supply the goods-so I know what I am
> getting,
> and also I get a few extra. So they don't pay the freight-only for
> the finished
> goods. 34 shirts IS a small job...and my price list has a break at 36-
> so I would
> have tried hard to get the customer to take 2 more...usually works.
> But the CUSTOMERS have to be educated-that SMALL orders just are NOT
> going to be cheap per shirt-I had a guy come in late Thursday that
> wanted
> iron on's to add his name, etc. to his 'work shirts' for the highway
> dept.
> He thought I could just whip them out on a printer and he could iron
> them
> on at home-for $1 APIECE! After 30 minutes I still don't think I had
> him understanding
> that there was no way I could supply him with anything he could 'iron
> on' AT HOME,
> on WORN CLOTHING....that would stick.
> Would he order new shirts so I could screen them? Nope....somehow he
> thought
> he could get it done for $1 a shirt.
> No difference with commercial accounts-they get prices for 144 or 288
> shirts-and then
> come back expecting to order just a dozen AT THE SAME PRICE....
> so I have to explain-no matter if I do 1 shirt or 1000 , I already
> have an hour and a half
> of labor for the job-setup, design time, burning a screen, washout,
> and then cleanup and
> stripping afterwards. No matter how many. Embroidery...still have to
> digitize the design-
> no matter how many. So the fewer they get, the more it costs.
> If you can educate the customer-you can get the jobs and still make
> money.
> Most people now adays don't even think about 'freight'...when they
> pay $9.95 for
> 'shipping and handling' to get a CD off the late nite tv...it really
> only costs about 75¢
> but they don't think about it. So go ahead and add the freight in
> separately...I'll bet the
> competition does the same thing.
> Roland
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roland.
>> Yes, I have a Sanmar account (I love that company!) and get free
>> shipping on
>> orders over $200, free catalogs, personalized website, etc.  And I
>> haven't
>> done $20K worth of business with them yet, but they still go out of
>> their
>> way to work with me.  So I don't use any other suppliers.
>>
>> Some of my orders are small and don't amount to $200 to qualify for
>> free
>> shipping, although I try to group orders to meet that threshold
>> when I can.
>> What I was referring to in my earlier email was paying to drop-ship
>> from
>> Sanmar to a subcontractor, say the Beauregards in Vermont, and then
>> paying
>> the shipping from Vermont to me on the finished goods.  On a recent
>> quote I
>> worked on for 34 tee shirts, the combined UPS ground shipping came
>> to $41;
>> priority mail would have been even more - YIKES!  That adds a lot
>> to the
>> price I have to get for things I sub out.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Sandra Walker
>> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
>> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
>> Montgomery, Texas
>> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:10 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>
>>
>>> Sandra, if you can get setup with Sanmar as a commercial account, you
>>> don't pay
>>> shipping on orders over $200.00 which is how I do it.
>>> And customers always pay the shipping-even on the low price 'import'
>>> deals
>>> I get through ad specialties...so unless there is a big multihead
>>> house nearby
>>> that you are competing with-there is always a freight charge.
>>> Roland
>>>
>>> Sunrise Graphics
>>> 116 Main St
>>> Claremont, NH 03743
>>> 603-543-1324
>>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>>> Photoshop (v.6) for images, artwork, logos-preferred for logo and
>>> sign work is Macromedia Freehand, any version, sent
>>> to our email-we are all MAC based graphic programs here
>>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in Texas, just North of Houston, and so far the shipping cost
>>>> from
>>>> Sanmar to the contractor + shipping finished goods to me has been
>>>> prohibitive.  Either I eat the shipping and lose money (which I
>>>> can't afford
>>>> and would be dumb anyway) or the potential customer goes someplace
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't been able to figure a cost-effective way to do this yet.
>>>> Am I
>>>> missing something?  Or is there somebody out there close to me who
>>>> does
>>>> contract work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Sandra Walker
>>>> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
>>>> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
>>>> Montgomery, Texas
>>>> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "r.rinehartsr" <drader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:46 PM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone on the list from the mid-section of the nation doing
>>>>> contract work?
>>>>> Debbie Rinehart
>>>>> Deb'z-N-Stitches
>>>>> Martinsville, In.
>>>>> 765-342-7392
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: Linen Barn
>>>>>  To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:12 AM
>>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>>>
>>>>>  It depends on what the market will bear.  If they were selling
>>>>> them
>>>>> before
>>>>>  for $12 then they probably want to still sell them for that and
>>>>> still
>>>>> make a
>>>>>  profit.  If I were to bid this I would do them for $7 each.  Now
>>>>> I have
>>>>> 12
>>>>>  heads so running 100 hats at 7500 stitches would take me 8-10
>>>>> hours on my
>>>>> 2
>>>>>  head.  Making $500 on my 2 head is not bad considering I do
>>>>> contract work
>>>>> on
>>>>>  it all the time where I make $300 a day.  You can send the hats
>>>>> to me and
>>>>> I
>>>>>  would do them as contract work for $3.50 each and you could make
>>>>> $1.50
>>>>> per
>>>>>  hat for doing nothing other than drop shipping the hats to me and
>>>>> delivering
>>>>>  them.  Or as Roland said you can have one of the overseas or large
>>>>>  embroidery places do them for $4 each and make $3 a hat for
>>>>> contracting
>>>>> it
>>>>>  out.  Sometimes the smaller shops eigher have to contract out,
>>>>> make
>>>>> little
>>>>>  money per item or pass on orders to make it.  There is no reason
>>>>> to run
>>>>> low
>>>>>  paying jobs on a single head which ties it up so you can't get
>>>>> your
>>>>> higher
>>>>>  paying jobs done when you can have contractors do it that are
>>>>> used to
>>>>> making
>>>>>  the lower $$$ per item but are reliant on quantities.  You also
>>>>> need to
>>>>> make
>>>>>  sure that if you do contract it out that you use one that does
>>>>> quality
>>>>> work
>>>>>  with good turn times.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Aaron Sargent
>>>>>  The Linen Barn
>>>>>  linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>  541-770-2957
>>>>>  Medford, OR
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: "Susan Davidson" <Sewfly@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>  To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:35 PM
>>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Need pricing advise
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in the process of putting in a bid for a hat order and am in
>>>>>> need
>>>>> of
>>>>>> help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have already digitized the logo in question.....the group really
>>>>> likes
>>>>>> it.....but I want to stay competitive.  I am sure that my stitch
>>>>>> count
>>>>> is
>>>>>> much higher than the last shop that did hats for this
>>>>>> organization.
>>>>> (My
>>>>>> husband purchased for $12.00 one of the other's hat so that I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> compare
>>>>>> apples to apples on the hat itself.  And I see my logo is
>>>>>> definitely
>>>>> much
>>>>>> more detailed.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My stitch count is in the 7500 range.  The hat price per piece/
>>>>>> broken
>>>>>> dozen
>>>>>> is $2.50 and by the dozen it is $1.97 regardless of how many
>>>>>> dozen I
>>>>>> purchase.  The hat is Otto's mesh 19-366, however, I am going to
>>>>> suggest
>>>>>> Otto's mesh 27-364.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, I know this is a
>>>>>> dilemma
>>>>> for
>>>>>> many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>> Sewfly Embroidery
>>>>>>
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