This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/565.html#000006 Backing might help...because the backing gets 'clamped' down along with the hat face-but the hat face will get sewn 'to' the backing-preventing even more movement. Hat by itself has a lot of play in it as it sews so you want to 'tie the sucker down' to get as close to a flat, non-moving surface as you can. Less side to side movement when the needle goes through, less chafing of the thread on the needle plate. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================