[amayausers] Re: design on caps

Ruth,
Usually if it can be hooped, it can be sewn, except, if ,and, or, but the 
exception to the rule. I guess you could try it, I personally have never 
tried to hoop the front of a cap in a 12cm hoop....just the 
backs.......sounds difficult to me, guess I will have to check it out.

As far as the sewing order..center out.....bottom up....a cap, if  hooped 
this way with a 12cm hoop, is just another flat sewing object and this rule 
wouldn't  matter as much. The center out--bottom up rule 
can/may/might/possibly/could also apply to other garments as well...not just 
caps. ;-))

Rod


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps


> Rod
> I was just wondering if maybe we could use the 12cm hoop to do the caps
> instead of using the cap driver.  Have you or anyone tried doing this?  I
> have done it on my Husqvarna Viking D1 and would be nice to be able to do 
> it
> on my Amaya.  If so, would we still keep the same sewing out order, from
> center to side, bottom to top?
> Glad to see I'm not the only one up early on Sunday morning, or have you
> even gone to bed yet?
>
> Ruth
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:02 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>
>
>> Ruth,
>> That was her quote from her last email.........I didn't understand it
>> either....I too, am confused.....I think she meant that she was still
>> using
>> the 12cm hoop selection while using the cap driver but that is a
>> guess......
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:33 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>
>>
>>> Rod
>>> Please explain to me what you all are talking about when you say you sew
>>> a
>>> cap out on the 12cm hoop and then the husband set it for the hat hoop 
>>> and
>>> it
>>> is actually still in the flat sew.  What does this all mean?  Sorry you
>>> have
>>> me confused.
>>> Ruth Williams ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> L & R Embrodery
>>> Clarkston, Wa
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:34 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rod,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for that info. I absolutely forgot about the size it
>>>> should be. I originally sewed it out on a 12cm hoop and then the 
>>>> husband
>>>> set
>>>> it for the hat hoop and so therefore it is actually still in the flat
>>>> sew.
>>>> or does that really matter? I thought I saw tear in the hats, or at
>>>> least
>>>> where it seemed to have tore away some of the material.
>>>>
>>>> Phyllis
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:07 AM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Phyllis,
>>>>> I will send a picture to your email address as the e-group does not
>>>>> receive
>>>>> attachments...too bad at times, as a picture, as they say is worth a
>>>>> thousand words. The picture is of a design I digitized for some
>>>>> Airborne
>>>>> guys to put on caps. I knew when I digitized it that I was pushing the
>>>>> vertical height to the max, the picture speaks for itself and 
>>>>> addresses
>>>>> what
>>>>> you have described.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have answered yourself, the lettering is too high on the cap. What
>>>>> is
>>>>> happening is the top of the cap is being stretched outward by the very
>>>>> end
>>>>> of the sewing arm and the front edge of the needle plate is distorting
>>>>> the
>>>>> cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> How does the inside of the cap look? Can you see where the center seam
>>>>> material is being scuffed or worn, maybe even cut clear thru?
>>>>>
>>>>> The solutions are to:
>>>>> 1. Reduce the size of the design a little.
>>>>> 2. Lower the design to the bottom of the sewing field...this still may
>>>>> not
>>>>> help completely,  if the design is still too large.
>>>>> 3. This one you must be very careful, and I say very careful
>>>>> with........you
>>>>> can disable your hoop limits in "Settings" and push the design even
>>>>> lower
>>>>> in
>>>>> the sewing
>>>>>    field. You can only push this by maybe 1/4 inch and no more as now
>>>>> the
>>>>> presser foot is riding the slope of the center seam of the cap and 
>>>>> will
>>>>> slip
>>>>> down the
>>>>>    slope of the cap on the down stroke, push itself up against the 
>>>>> back
>>>>> side of the needle and bingo, needle break for sure. So don't try
>>>>> pushing
>>>>> this too far.
>>>>>    always remember to re-enable the hoop limit feature after 
>>>>> completing
>>>>> the
>>>>> project!
>>>>>
>>>>> The quality will always suffer on caps if the vertical height of the
>>>>> design
>>>>> is pushed too far, especially with lettering. The best quality will be
>>>>> seen
>>>>> if the design is kept at 2.25 in or under and even then, low or lower
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> sewing field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>>> Embroidery Cottage
>>>>> Rod & Sharon Springer
>>>>> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>>>>> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>>>>>
>>>>> Boise, ID  83713
>>>>> 208-938-3038
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] design on caps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I put together a design for a customer and sometimes the design sews
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> great and at other times the  top of the letters (only  the top word)
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> out half  there and some not at all. I don't like wasting hats but
>>>>>> husband
>>>>>> pushed me to do five.
>>>>>> my question is why would the this happen to some and not all? and
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> part of it be that it may have sewed too high on the cap?
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>> Crickets' Creations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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