[amayausers] Re: design on caps

Rod can do them in his spare time,right

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps


> Rod said there is an easier way Ruth, send them to him!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 11:17 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>
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>> Rod
>> I guess I am just looking for an easier answer for doing caps, like
>> everyone
>> else.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:13 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>
>>
>>> Ok, I will talk to Herb just to make sure, never thought of that.  It
>>> didn't
>>> seem to bother the Husq D1, but every machine is different.
>>> Thanks
>>> Ruth   ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:20 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ruth,
>>>> Be careful with the sticky spray, it can lead to gumming up the inside
>>>> of
>>>> the bobbin case area and the rotary hook...beens ome talk about this on
>>>> the
>>>> group lately....talk to Herb..
>>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:01 AM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> You don't hoop it, you hoop stabilizer, stray with KK2000 and stitch
>>>>> the
>>>>> hat
>>>>> on that with the bill flatted out as much as you can get it..  That's
>>>>> how
>>>>> I
>>>>> did it with my D1 Husq D1.  I think I will try it and let you know.
>>>>> Ruth    ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>> Usually if it can be hooped, it can be sewn, except, if ,and, or, but
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> exception to the rule. I guess you could try it, I personally have
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> tried to hoop the front of a cap in a 12cm hoop....just the
>>>>>> backs.......sounds difficult to me, guess I will have to check it 
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the sewing order..center out.....bottom up....a cap, if
>>>>>> hooped
>>>>>> this way with a 12cm hoop, is just another flat sewing object and 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> rule
>>>>>> wouldn't  matter as much. The center out--bottom up rule
>>>>>> can/may/might/possibly/could also apply to other garments as
>>>>>> well...not
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> caps. ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:52 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> I was just wondering if maybe we could use the 12cm hoop to do the
>>>>>>> caps
>>>>>>> instead of using the cap driver.  Have you or anyone tried doing
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have done it on my Husqvarna Viking D1 and would be nice to be able
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> on my Amaya.  If so, would we still keep the same sewing out order,
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> center to side, bottom to top?
>>>>>>> Glad to see I'm not the only one up early on Sunday morning, or have
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> even gone to bed yet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:02 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>> That was her quote from her last email.........I didn't understand
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> either....I too, am confused.....I think she meant that she was
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> the 12cm hoop selection while using the cap driver but that is a
>>>>>>>> guess......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:33 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>> Please explain to me what you all are talking about when you say
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> sew
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> cap out on the 12cm hoop and then the husband set it for the hat
>>>>>>>>> hoop
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is actually still in the flat sew.  What does this all mean? 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> me confused.
>>>>>>>>> Ruth Williams ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> L & R Embrodery
>>>>>>>>> Clarkston, Wa
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:34 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rod,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for that info. I absolutely forgot about the
>>>>>>>>>> size
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> should be. I originally sewed it out on a 12cm hoop and then the
>>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> it for the hat hoop and so therefore it is actually still in the
>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>>> sew.
>>>>>>>>>> or does that really matter? I thought I saw tear in the hats, or
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>> where it seemed to have tore away some of the material.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phyllis,
>>>>>>>>>>> I will send a picture to your email address as the e-group does
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> receive
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments...too bad at times, as a picture, as they say is
>>>>>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> thousand words. The picture is of a design I digitized for some
>>>>>>>>>>> Airborne
>>>>>>>>>>> guys to put on caps. I knew when I digitized it that I was
>>>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> vertical height to the max, the picture speaks for itself and
>>>>>>>>>>> addresses
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> you have described.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have answered yourself, the lettering is too high on the 
>>>>>>>>>>> cap.
>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> happening is the top of the cap is being stretched outward by 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>> of the sewing arm and the front edge of the needle plate is
>>>>>>>>>>> distorting
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> cap.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does the inside of the cap look? Can you see where the 
>>>>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>>>>> seam
>>>>>>>>>>> material is being scuffed or worn, maybe even cut clear thru?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The solutions are to:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Reduce the size of the design a little.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Lower the design to the bottom of the sewing field...this
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> help completely,  if the design is still too large.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. This one you must be very careful, and I say very careful
>>>>>>>>>>> with........you
>>>>>>>>>>> can disable your hoop limits in "Settings" and push the design
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the sewing
>>>>>>>>>>>    field. You can only push this by maybe 1/4 inch and no more 
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> presser foot is riding the slope of the center seam of the cap
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>>>>> down the
>>>>>>>>>>>    slope of the cap on the down stroke, push itself up against
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>> side of the needle and bingo, needle break for sure. So don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>>> this too far.
>>>>>>>>>>>    always remember to re-enable the hoop limit feature after
>>>>>>>>>>> completing
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> project!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The quality will always suffer on caps if the vertical height of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>>>>> is pushed too far, especially with lettering. The best quality
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>>> if the design is kept at 2.25 in or under and even then, low or
>>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> sewing field.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Embroidery Cottage
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod & Sharon Springer
>>>>>>>>>>> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>>>>>>>>>>> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Boise, ID  83713
>>>>>>>>>>> 208-938-3038
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] design on caps
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I put together a design for a customer and sometimes the design
>>>>>>>>>>>> sews
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> great and at other times the  top of the letters (only  the top
>>>>>>>>>>>> word)
>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>> out half  there and some not at all. I don't like wasting hats
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>>>>> pushed me to do five.
>>>>>>>>>>>> my question is why would the this happen to some and not all?
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>> part of it be that it may have sewed too high on the cap?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>>>>>> Crickets' Creations
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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