[amayausers] Re: design on caps

Rod said there is an easier way Ruth, send them to him!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps


> Rod
> I guess I am just looking for an easier answer for doing caps, like 
> everyone
> else.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:13 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>
>
>> Ok, I will talk to Herb just to make sure, never thought of that.  It
>> didn't
>> seem to bother the Husq D1, but every machine is different.
>> Thanks
>> Ruth   ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:20 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>
>>
>>> Ruth,
>>> Be careful with the sticky spray, it can lead to gumming up the inside 
>>> of
>>> the bobbin case area and the rotary hook...beens ome talk about this on
>>> the
>>> group lately....talk to Herb..
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>> You don't hoop it, you hoop stabilizer, stray with KK2000 and stitch 
>>>> the
>>>> hat
>>>> on that with the bill flatted out as much as you can get it..  That's
>>>> how
>>>> I
>>>> did it with my D1 Husq D1.  I think I will try it and let you know.
>>>> Ruth    ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:21 AM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>> Usually if it can be hooped, it can be sewn, except, if ,and, or, but
>>>>> the
>>>>> exception to the rule. I guess you could try it, I personally have
>>>>> never
>>>>> tried to hoop the front of a cap in a 12cm hoop....just the
>>>>> backs.......sounds difficult to me, guess I will have to check it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the sewing order..center out.....bottom up....a cap, if
>>>>> hooped
>>>>> this way with a 12cm hoop, is just another flat sewing object and this
>>>>> rule
>>>>> wouldn't  matter as much. The center out--bottom up rule
>>>>> can/may/might/possibly/could also apply to other garments as 
>>>>> well...not
>>>>> just
>>>>> caps. ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> I was just wondering if maybe we could use the 12cm hoop to do the
>>>>>> caps
>>>>>> instead of using the cap driver.  Have you or anyone tried doing 
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have done it on my Husqvarna Viking D1 and would be nice to be able 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> on my Amaya.  If so, would we still keep the same sewing out order,
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> center to side, bottom to top?
>>>>>> Glad to see I'm not the only one up early on Sunday morning, or have
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> even gone to bed yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:02 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>> That was her quote from her last email.........I didn't understand 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> either....I too, am confused.....I think she meant that she was 
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> the 12cm hoop selection while using the cap driver but that is a
>>>>>>> guess......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:33 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>> Please explain to me what you all are talking about when you say 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> sew
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> cap out on the 12cm hoop and then the husband set it for the hat
>>>>>>>> hoop
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is actually still in the flat sew.  What does this all mean?  Sorry
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> me confused.
>>>>>>>> Ruth Williams ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> L & R Embrodery
>>>>>>>> Clarkston, Wa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rod,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for that info. I absolutely forgot about the 
>>>>>>>>> size
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> should be. I originally sewed it out on a 12cm hoop and then the
>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> it for the hat hoop and so therefore it is actually still in the
>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>> sew.
>>>>>>>>> or does that really matter? I thought I saw tear in the hats, or 
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> where it seemed to have tore away some of the material.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:07 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phyllis,
>>>>>>>>>> I will send a picture to your email address as the e-group does
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> receive
>>>>>>>>>> attachments...too bad at times, as a picture, as they say is 
>>>>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> thousand words. The picture is of a design I digitized for some
>>>>>>>>>> Airborne
>>>>>>>>>> guys to put on caps. I knew when I digitized it that I was 
>>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> vertical height to the max, the picture speaks for itself and
>>>>>>>>>> addresses
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> you have described.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have answered yourself, the lettering is too high on the cap.
>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> happening is the top of the cap is being stretched outward by the
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>> of the sewing arm and the front edge of the needle plate is
>>>>>>>>>> distorting
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> cap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does the inside of the cap look? Can you see where the center
>>>>>>>>>> seam
>>>>>>>>>> material is being scuffed or worn, maybe even cut clear thru?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The solutions are to:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Reduce the size of the design a little.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Lower the design to the bottom of the sewing field...this 
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> help completely,  if the design is still too large.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. This one you must be very careful, and I say very careful
>>>>>>>>>> with........you
>>>>>>>>>> can disable your hoop limits in "Settings" and push the design
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the sewing
>>>>>>>>>>    field. You can only push this by maybe 1/4 inch and no more as
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> presser foot is riding the slope of the center seam of the cap 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>>>> down the
>>>>>>>>>>    slope of the cap on the down stroke, push itself up against 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>> side of the needle and bingo, needle break for sure. So don't try
>>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>>> this too far.
>>>>>>>>>>    always remember to re-enable the hoop limit feature after
>>>>>>>>>> completing
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> project!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The quality will always suffer on caps if the vertical height of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>>>> is pushed too far, especially with lettering. The best quality
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>> if the design is kept at 2.25 in or under and even then, low or
>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> sewing field.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Embroidery Cottage
>>>>>>>>>> Rod & Sharon Springer
>>>>>>>>>> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>>>>>>>>>> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boise, ID  83713
>>>>>>>>>> 208-938-3038
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] design on caps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> I put together a design for a customer and sometimes the design
>>>>>>>>>>> sews
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> great and at other times the  top of the letters (only  the top
>>>>>>>>>>> word)
>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>> out half  there and some not at all. I don't like wasting hats
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>>>> pushed me to do five.
>>>>>>>>>>> my question is why would the this happen to some and not all? 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> part of it be that it may have sewed too high on the cap?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>>>>> Crickets' Creations
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