[amayausers] Re: design on caps

Rod
I guess I am just looking for an easier answer for doing caps, like everyone 
else.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps


> Ok, I will talk to Herb just to make sure, never thought of that.  It 
> didn't
> seem to bother the Husq D1, but every machine is different.
> Thanks
> Ruth   ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:20 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>
>
>> Ruth,
>> Be careful with the sticky spray, it can lead to gumming up the inside of
>> the bobbin case area and the rotary hook...beens ome talk about this on
>> the
>> group lately....talk to Herb..
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:01 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>
>>
>>> Rod
>>> You don't hoop it, you hoop stabilizer, stray with KK2000 and stitch the
>>> hat
>>> on that with the bill flatted out as much as you can get it..  That's 
>>> how
>>> I
>>> did it with my D1 Husq D1.  I think I will try it and let you know.
>>> Ruth    ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:21 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ruth,
>>>> Usually if it can be hooped, it can be sewn, except, if ,and, or, but
>>>> the
>>>> exception to the rule. I guess you could try it, I personally have 
>>>> never
>>>> tried to hoop the front of a cap in a 12cm hoop....just the
>>>> backs.......sounds difficult to me, guess I will have to check it out.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the sewing order..center out.....bottom up....a cap, if
>>>> hooped
>>>> this way with a 12cm hoop, is just another flat sewing object and this
>>>> rule
>>>> wouldn't  matter as much. The center out--bottom up rule
>>>> can/may/might/possibly/could also apply to other garments as well...not
>>>> just
>>>> caps. ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> I was just wondering if maybe we could use the 12cm hoop to do the 
>>>>> caps
>>>>> instead of using the cap driver.  Have you or anyone tried doing this?
>>>>> I
>>>>> have done it on my Husqvarna Viking D1 and would be nice to be able to
>>>>> do
>>>>> it
>>>>> on my Amaya.  If so, would we still keep the same sewing out order,
>>>>> from
>>>>> center to side, bottom to top?
>>>>> Glad to see I'm not the only one up early on Sunday morning, or have
>>>>> you
>>>>> even gone to bed yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:02 AM
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>> That was her quote from her last email.........I didn't understand it
>>>>>> either....I too, am confused.....I think she meant that she was still
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> the 12cm hoop selection while using the cap driver but that is a
>>>>>> guess......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "ruth" <ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:33 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> Please explain to me what you all are talking about when you say you
>>>>>>> sew
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> cap out on the 12cm hoop and then the husband set it for the hat 
>>>>>>> hoop
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is actually still in the flat sew.  What does this all mean?  Sorry
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> me confused.
>>>>>>> Ruth Williams ruthwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> L & R Embrodery
>>>>>>> Clarkston, Wa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rod,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for that info. I absolutely forgot about the size
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> should be. I originally sewed it out on a 12cm hoop and then the
>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>> it for the hat hoop and so therefore it is actually still in the
>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>> sew.
>>>>>>>> or does that really matter? I thought I saw tear in the hats, or at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> where it seemed to have tore away some of the material.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:07 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: design on caps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Phyllis,
>>>>>>>>> I will send a picture to your email address as the e-group does 
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> receive
>>>>>>>>> attachments...too bad at times, as a picture, as they say is worth
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> thousand words. The picture is of a design I digitized for some
>>>>>>>>> Airborne
>>>>>>>>> guys to put on caps. I knew when I digitized it that I was pushing
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> vertical height to the max, the picture speaks for itself and
>>>>>>>>> addresses
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> you have described.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have answered yourself, the lettering is too high on the cap.
>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> happening is the top of the cap is being stretched outward by the
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>> of the sewing arm and the front edge of the needle plate is
>>>>>>>>> distorting
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> cap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does the inside of the cap look? Can you see where the center
>>>>>>>>> seam
>>>>>>>>> material is being scuffed or worn, maybe even cut clear thru?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The solutions are to:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Reduce the size of the design a little.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Lower the design to the bottom of the sewing field...this still
>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> help completely,  if the design is still too large.
>>>>>>>>> 3. This one you must be very careful, and I say very careful
>>>>>>>>> with........you
>>>>>>>>> can disable your hoop limits in "Settings" and push the design 
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the sewing
>>>>>>>>>    field. You can only push this by maybe 1/4 inch and no more as
>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> presser foot is riding the slope of the center seam of the cap and
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>>> down the
>>>>>>>>>    slope of the cap on the down stroke, push itself up against the
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> side of the needle and bingo, needle break for sure. So don't try
>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>> this too far.
>>>>>>>>>    always remember to re-enable the hoop limit feature after
>>>>>>>>> completing
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> project!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The quality will always suffer on caps if the vertical height of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>>> is pushed too far, especially with lettering. The best quality 
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>> if the design is kept at 2.25 in or under and even then, low or
>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> sewing field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Embroidery Cottage
>>>>>>>>> Rod & Sharon Springer
>>>>>>>>> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>>>>>>>>> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boise, ID  83713
>>>>>>>>> 208-938-3038
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "PHYLLIS MCINTIRE" <PMCINTIRE@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:58 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] design on caps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> I put together a design for a customer and sometimes the design
>>>>>>>>>> sews
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> great and at other times the  top of the letters (only  the top
>>>>>>>>>> word)
>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> out half  there and some not at all. I don't like wasting hats 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>>> pushed me to do five.
>>>>>>>>>> my question is why would the this happen to some and not all? and
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> part of it be that it may have sewed too high on the cap?
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>> Phyllis
>>>>>>>>>> Crickets' Creations
>>>>>>>>>>
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