I sell hundreds of the cotton twill mesh back hats to a few gun clubs every year. I usually talk my Foam Hat people into the twills like Ron does. I usually get mine from KC Caps, really like the quality and they are around $1 each. I was actually just having fun with Ron. Now he wants to take all my business :O Dana, I have a few silkscreeners I do contract work for and I have them do all my printing. I actually haven't had a call for silkscreened foam hats but I can have them done no problem. I think they are the ugliest thing in the world but if thats what the customer wants and what sells then thats fine with me. Aaron Sargent The Linen Barn linen@xxxxxxxxxxx Medford, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: cheap foamy veterans hats... > Sure Send me ALL your Foam Front masses yearning to breathe free! > I have no problem telling them no!! > Then I can usually talk 'em into a cheap cotton twill for a little more. > usually we get Old men wanting the tall foam front because it's what they > have on > at the time and they like it but then I show them a 5 panel poplin and they > think its > even better and an upscale look for a little bit more. > I can even get them with a mesh back so their head can "Breathe" > if you need foam fronts got to Otto or Nissin, Places like Magic headwear > has a lot of choices but figured out that they are in demand and charge > in the 2 to 3 dollar range, and you used to get them from Nissin for 79 > cents > a piece. > > Supply and Demand baby... > > Ron Vinyard > Body Cover / Magic Stitches > www.bodycoverdesign.com > > Grants Pass, Oregon > 1-888-435-0716 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:58 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: cheap foamy veterans hats... > > > > He gets mine as well. (Hate Them). Sounds like we could have our own > > little > > foamy hat guy in the making...... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:00 AM > > Subject: [amayausers] Re: cheap foamy veterans hats... > > > > > >> Ron, > >> > >> So your'e saying I can send all my Foam hat customers to you??? > >> > >> > >> Aaron Sargent > >> The Linen Barn > >> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> Medford, Oregon > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:26 AM > >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: cheap foamy veterans hats... > >> > >> > >>> When we haven't been able to talk someone out of these hats > >>> we show them a sample and agree to what they see before we proceed. > >>> Remember the foam is relatively thin and compress' easily so you > >>> don't have to worry about increased material thickness too much > >>> I think we ran them at around 5 or 6. the thing to remember is because > >>> its > >>> foam, it is very hard to stabilize, fills stitches flex and distort and > >>> columns unless > >>> very thick have the foam pull over the top and cover part of the column, > >> if > >>> you > >>> can visualize that. so take that into consideration, the design seems to > >> be > >>> smaller > >>> because the foam collapses around the edges, > >>> they are not pretty but they will work, but practice first. > >>> and have a sample to show perspective clients so they know what to > >>> expect. > >>> > >>> Ron Vinyard > >>> Body Cover / Magic Stitches > >>> www.bodycoverdesign.com > >>> > >>> Grants Pass, Oregon > >>> 1-888-435-0716 > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx> > >>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:50 AM > >>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: cheap foamy veterans hats... > >>> > >>> > >>> >I think you'll be okay. May want to practice first on one or two. Put > >>> >down > >>> > some double zig zag underlay to help cover the foam underneath (I'm > >>> > assuming > >>> > it's white) and lower the density setting on the underlay from 25 to > >> about > >>> > 12.5 . Density could be about a 3.5 and this is depending on what the > >>> > design looks like. I think these might be easier than most hats > >>> > because > >>> > of > >>> > the "cheesy" bill board rectangular front. Material thickness may > >>> > have > >> to > >>> > be increased a little to accommodate the spongy foam. Otherwise it > >>> > will > >>> > pull on the thread too much. If there isn't much buckram backing > >>> > behind > >>> > the > >>> > foam, be sure to use one or two layers of tear away backing. Again, > >>> > practice on one or two. > >>> > Ed > >>> > > >>> > Ed & Maralien Orantes > >>> > E.M. Broidery > >>> > 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200 > >>> > New Orleans, La. 70056 > >>> > 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643) > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Linen Barn > >>> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:25 AM > >>> > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > Subject: [amayausers] cheap foamy veterans hats... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Hi all, > >>> > I am emailing from my wife's email, my email seems to > >>> > be down (I can receive email but can't send from my > >>> > account). So if you get this please post a response, > >>> > thanks. > >>> > > >>> > I transported the amaya successfully. Thanks for the > >>> > help. > >>> > > >>> > Now I have a customer who already has a few hundred > >>> > cheap foamy hats for a U.S. Veterans group. I think > >>> > this is like that cheap foamy hats you see at the > >>> > truck stops... I am meeting with customer in the > >>> > morning to see for sure. But I am curious assuming > >>> > that's the type of hat... has anyone embroidered on > >>> > these cheasy foamy hats? If so, I was worried too > >>> > much density may just tear through the stuff (if they > >>> > don't have any buckram etc.). > >>> > > >>> > Based on the customers specific description, I am > >>> > almost certain these are those type of hats... if they > >>> > are, can the amaya sew these okay? I don't want to > >>> > take the job, only to find out we can't sew on this > >>> > type of foam... > >>> > > >>> > thanks, > >>> > Peter Strike > >>> > Indianapolis, IN > >>> > > >>> > Aaron Sargent > >>> > The Linen Barn > >>> > linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > Medford, Oregon > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >