This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/468.html#000008 I think the original question in this thread got sidetracked. To create an oval, there are several ways to do it. There is already a bank of preformatted shapes that came with Designshop, squares, circles, ovals, with the satin stitch outline. These are accessed through a pull down menu button. Once on your design, you can stretch, manipulate, etc. to the size you need, then use properties menu to change the stitch width. Or, there is a pullout button on the tool bar, has stars, circles, ovals, etc. and you click the one you want, then 'pull and drag' to get the size needed-then add your outer single line or column outline, whatever you want. To add a straight line, you click on your 'walk normal stitch', or 'single line' stitch, or 'column' stitch button. Click once where you want one end, then move the mouse sidways and keep the line straight (no 'steps' in it) and click at the end. Now you have a perfectly straight line. For the hooping problem...your design is level, the machine is going to sew it level, and the hoop is level...it's how you are hooping the fabric that is making it crooked. Take your hoops, and mark the 'center' of the 'wings' on each side of the circle. Extend this mark down inside the frame , there is your horizontal dead on line mark. Then with a little creative measuring, you can mark the hoop itself with vertical top and bottom 'center' marks. Now, when you hoop something-lay it flat on a table (I use one of my screenprinting platens) and use seamstress 'chalk' (looks like a little 'wedge'and feels waxy) and a ruler to mark the horizontal 'level' line lightly, and a vertical line for your center. Use the seam line on a polo as a vertical line if you have to. Most good quality shirts you can use the 'fabric' lines as vertical also. Sometimes we use masking tape and place that on the shirts, mark with a pencil, and then hoop it-use the marks you made on your hoop to line up horizontal and vertical---and now everything should end up level and straight. Takes just a little practice. I had the process down pat, my wife could never get the hang of it. After I screwed up a couple dozen polos by trying to 'eyeball' the lineup, we bought the ALl In One Hooper and problems were gone. Every shirt, dead on straight and in the same place. Anyone that wants to order an All in One, I arranged for a 10% discount you can get from Sal! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================