[amayausers] Re: Towels

Hi to all,

My writing is bad but i understand very well what you
write.  My Amaya is sitting in my living room like my
dog, doing nothing.  The last week I bought one roll
of solvy toping for embroider some towel for gift. 
Now I have various request with geneous earning, but I
want your advice about price, material (Kmart $6
towel), letter type, letter size to make profit with
towel.  Thank very much.

Ed.RUiz








--- e3m@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Jack,
>  You should be in sales..  Very well written.
> 
> Thom,
>  You must know that to be a successful embroiderer,
> regardless of what machine you choose,  one must get
> a good handle on the three areas of embroidery. 
> Proper machine function, operator knowledge, and
> digitizing.  For beginners, you must make sure you
> know a technician if necessary, a good digitizer to
> shop out designs to, and most importantly, proper
> and plenty of training whenever and where ever you
> can get it for you and all your employees.  As for
> the business side, it sounds like you'll do fine
> with your present involvment of sales and marketing.
>  
> 
> I just can't help but notice a great deal of new
> embroiderers attempt to compete with the big dogs
> with little to no training.  I'm not only a Melco
> tech/trainer but I also do service work for Barudan
> in addition to having worked on Tajima machines and
> also most recently the Renissance machine from Great
> Notions (I still don't know whether to laugh or
> cry).  
> 
> All the embroiderers I've met have had issues with
> their machines at some point in time whether it be
> due to a fluke in the manufacturing process or a
> direct result of operator error - if not damage
> occuring during shipping.  My point being that there
> isn't a machine or embroidery company without
> issues.  I believe it all boils down to system
> features and customer service - oh and of course,
> price.  However, if you consider it a business
> expense, the prices really won't be that big of a
> factor as your first machine, whom ever you choose,
> will start off in the high teens (of thousands) with
> all the necessary software, and associated equipment
> and supplies such as PC, thread, tools, furniture,
> etc...    Melco has addressed the price issue with
> the modularity factor in that the second machine,
> and subsiquent machines, will only cost you the base
> price for the machine as the software and other
> equipment necessary to run, have already been
> acquired with the first machine.  This is
>   of course depending on which software you
> purchased up front as there are a few levels to
> choose from. 
> 
> Back to the systems features and customer
> service,...  as for features, the Amaya system has
> all the bells and whistles you will use and even
> some features you won't -at least not for a while
> until you get up to speed.  As for ease of use,
> after a couple of days experience, you should be
> very comfortable with the most common buttons. 
> However you will make mistakes and plenty of them as
> we all have but that is only what makes us better. 
> Mistakes like sewing a collar to the inside of a
> left chest design or forgetting to lower your
> presser foot resulting in consistent thread breaks. 
> The first mistake could happen on any machine and
> the second mistake will happen only with an Amaya
> until you make it a habit to check presserfoot
> height before you sew which requires only a glance
> in the right direction.  I personally haven't made
> either of these mistakes in years simply due to the
> routine I've set up for myself when I sew.
> 
> There are a lot of areas to learn about sewing and
> embroidery in general.  So be prepared to go back to
> school, in a sense, to learn a new trade.  Learning
> the Amaya system is simply one of the classes in
> that school.
> Why I like my Amayas:
> Features we use on a daily basis (in no particular
> order):  Laser beam- centering the design is a
> breeze, virtually not having to trace every design
> because you see it on the screen within it's hoop,
> configurability - independent from the other
> machines, higher sewing speeds, working through a PC
> and not an interface or automat with a display that
> leaves you guessing, one man can move a multi head
> machine and doesn't require renting a forklift. 
> Okay, I don't move my machines on a daily basis buy
> I have had to move them three times in four years. 
> I don't have to worry about building my shop around
> the machines like needing a garage door access just
> to get the machines into a room.
> 
> Know that with all new systems, Melco is still
> trying to invent a better mouse trap therefore new
> features are always a consideration with every years
> machines.  Melco makes a great attempt to offer
> upward compatability on new features to older
> machines by making upgrade packages available for a
> price.  With this in mind, there can sometimes be
> bugs with all new things released however I only see
> the overall system getting better and I haven't seen
> a bug that Melco hasn't addressed.
> 
> As for customer service,  I have had an opportunity
> to meet a good number of folks at Melco and I
> genuinely feel that they have the customer's
> interest at heart.  As an independant tech, for
> every bad comment I've heard from customers about
> Melco, I've heard the same amount about Tajima and
> Barudan.  So I guess it's as they say, "the grass is
> always greener,..."
> 
> I don't think you'll go wrong with the Amayas.  No
> matter what machine you buy, just don't
> underestimate the power of training.  Think of it as
> a class where they give away all the secrets to
> success.
> Good luck to ya'.
> 
> Ed
> 
> -------------- Original message from "Jack Fuller"
> <Jack@xxxxxxxx>: -------------- 
> 
> 
> Thom
> If you go back into the archives of this group you
> will find that in the early days, three or 4 years
> ago, the Amaya had serious flaws. It had a
> reputation of being a problem machine. It is
> relatively new technology, that is, it pushes thread
> rather than pulls it. So it is fundamentally
> different than traditional machines such as Tajima,
> SWF and Barudan. And it requires different
> techniques to make it run well. This teething period
> generated a lot of bad feelings among some early
> adopters. But, within the last two years, most of
> the early machines appear to have been upgraded with
> the new parts and I think owners now agree the AMAYA
> is the slickest thing afloat. More people have
> learned how to make it run correctly. Recent
> software changes add better functionality. The
> quality of the embroidery on my Amaya is head and
> shoulders above the quality of the machines owned by
> guy who does my larger jobs. He has older
> conventional equipment. He sews at 600- 700 spm and
> I sew at 1100
>   or 1200 spm and as high as 1300 spm on certain
> designs. When one of his multi-head machines has a
> thread break ALL of his machines stop until it is
> fixed. On a multi-head AMAYA all the others keep on
> producing. Someone will correct me if I am wrong,
> but you can produce more work with fewer AMAYAs than
> you can with any of the conventional machines.
>  
> A single head AMAYA is about $12,000 plus software.
> A single head Tajima or Barudan is thousands more.
> Three single head AMAYAs will cost about $35K or so
> plus Flex software of $1500 or so. The three AMAYAs
> will sew 3600 stitches a minute. A four head
> conventional bridge machine will set you back
> $45-$50K and sew 2800 spm. The AMAYA will do more
> work with fewer machines for less money and do a
> better job. (The quality is my opinion, but I can
> defend it.) There are some things that cause me some
> concern however. The AMAYA has plastic gears. The
> others (Barudan and Tajima) do not, according to
> what I hear. The people I know who have Barudans,
> for example, swear by the quality of their machines
> and I have no reason to doubt them. I was going to
> buy a Barudan at one time. I still would give it
> strong consideration if I was going to open a high
> volume production shop running two shifts 6 or 7
> days a week. In my opinion, AMAYA is THE commercial
> machine. It has no peers. But as an i
>  ndustrial machine I have doubts. By commercial I
> mean a small shop doing production work one shift a
> day several days a week. It is the typical mom and
> pop store front shop. Industrial work is 16 hour
> days 6 or 7 days a week. The difference is the
> comfort factor. A small shop has less of a risk
> because the jobs are usually smaller and margins are
> greater. If your machine stops it is no big deal to
> take the job to a competitor friend to finish for
> you. And you can still make some money on the deal.
> That is harder to do on a multi hundred or thousand
> order where there is likely no one else around to
> help you out. Such would be a large contract shop.
> Of course there are exceptions everywhere and on
> both ends of the spectrum. If you have three AMAYAs
> and one goes down you still have two putting out as
> much work as the four head. 
>  
> You may hear some say that the newest conventionals
> sew at 1000 spm which is almost as fast the AMAYA.
> But most run their machines at 700 or 800 spm. It is
> also true that the AMAYA runs at 1500 spm but most
> run them at 1100 or 1200 spm. But the real test is
> how many net stitches per minute a machine puts out.
> Figuring an 80% uptime on both still gives AMAYA the
> edge given that it is usually only one head at time
> that suffers a thread break or problem. On a flex
> AMAYA 
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