[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed

Herb,

 If you set the Column Width setting to increase by 3% and load the design 
you want to sew, do it work now, or does it error again? From your email I 
cannot tell if you were able to get the design loaded with the 3% column 
width increase or if you loaded it again without the increase?

 There has to be something that is causing the machine to error as it did? 
Either the 3% in column width increase (which then the software has to 
re-process the design) is causing an issue with that design, or something 
else is going on? The Amaya software will display messages in a status bar 
at the bottom, did you click on it to pull it down and read what messages 
were there?

When you say "Shut down OS, and turn  off machine. Restart, load design, 
same results."  was the design that loaded the same design it had tried to 
load when it failed before and it was doing it from memory as it does every 
time it is turned back on? If so, this would indicate that the design held 
in memory was corrupt. By loading a different design, it cleared memory, 
then loading the original again, the computer had to re-process it again, so 
it was like a new design being loaded etc. The question is did it load with 
the 3% column width increase you set in? If so, then I have no explanation 
as to why it would have failed the first time after changing the percentage? 
The computer does all processing of the design. The only thing I can think 
of to explain it is a "burp" in the computer. If it was something in the 
design, or a bug in the software, I would think it would have done it again, 
not just the one time. Are you able to get the design loaded with the 3% 
column increase?

 Jeff Banks
 Melco Embroidery Systems






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed


> Jeff,
> ok, liked your idea, but,
> When  added 3% to the column x/y  I get the usual message about when these
> settings will take,,,do you want to reset the design now,, yes to that and
> the goddess color changes to color 4 (last color) and said download 
> denied.
> Hit the reset, then loaded the file again. Machine says unable to set 
> home.
> Laser is on, machine not responding to any commands. Shut down OS, and 
> turn
> off machine. Restart, load design, same results. Load different design,
> works fine. Reload first design, seems okay. Gremlins in my stuff!!
>
> Herb
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:50 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed
>
>
>> Herb,
>>
>> Another thought, if this problem is on small lettering or in narrow
>> columns, add some column width as well. If the design you are sewing was
>> supplied to you, it was probably originally done for another brand of
>> machine. The Amaya typically sews things a bit narrower than other
>> machines
>> as it is more precise and motor controls are of such that there is less
>> overshoot etc. than other brands. If anything the Amaya undershoots, so
>> adding some Column Width is a normal thing to do and will help if the
>> problem areas are columns. On the Settings TAB in  Settings you should
>> find
>> where you can add a percentage to the columns or a set amount of
>> embroidery
>> points. Add a little to what you are doing and then try it again. I think
>> your problem will get better and also you may see an improvement in the
>> looks as well.
>>
>> Jeff Banks
>> Melco Embroidery Systems
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:28 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed
>>
>>
>>> Ed,
>>> Appreciate the feed back. I have a few windshirts to do (148) and am
>>> starting with all new goodies. Your input on the bobbin tension was very
>>> interesting and therein  may be key to this. Maybe the light bulb just
>>> came
>>> on. The relationship between the top and bottom tensions is really all 
>>> we
>>> are dealing with whether it be Actifeed or disc tensioning. Without
>>> making
>>> this way to complicated, At a MT of 4 I get popping thread breaks and
>>> what
>>> I
>>> would say is not quite looping, but close. Drop to a 3 and begin to
>>> experience fraying thread breaks. Have not changed the bobbin at this
>>> point
>>> but from your post my thinking is to stay at a 3 and loosen the bobbin
>>> slightly. What say you mud bug buddy?
>>>
>>> Herb
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:18 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed
>>>
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>> I haven't had a great deal of experience with the "thread feed fine
>>>> tuning"
>>>> feature under the settings tab.  Although I think it's great to have it
>>>> there in case we need it, I feel it's one of those bells or whistles
>>>> that
>>>> are not practical for our needs.  My thoughts on this is that a MT of 3
>>>> or
>>>> 4
>>>> or whatever whole number you choose, usually does the trick simply
>>>> because
>>>> the bobbin is capable of "taking up the slack" (figure of speech) in
>>>> this
>>>> area.  The bobbin should be allowed to slip through the bobbin case so
>>>> that
>>>> the bobbin will dispense as needed after the thread feed system has
>>>> delivered all it's going to deliver.  Meaning that if the thread feed
>>>> system
>>>> was set too low, and there wasn't enough thread for that stitch, then
>>>> the
>>>> bobbin will have a greater length.  If the MT is set too high, chances
>>>> are
>>>> that you won't see any bobbin because it wasn't necessary as the excess
>>>> thread wrapped around to the back side of the garment where the bobbin
>>>> usually is.  If the thread feed is even higher than that, the
>>>> exceptional
>>>> amount of excess thread has no where to go so it sits up on top and
>>>> bottom
>>>> of the garment creating "Looping".
>>>> Now there are a couple of things that can change what we think is
>>>> controlled by the Material Thickness.  Not only do you have the setting
>>>> in
>>>> software (3,4,...) but if the bobbin tension is incorrect or simply
>>>> dirty,
>>>> or the thread feed roller is dirty or has grooves, or if the thread 
>>>> path
>>>> is
>>>> obstructed, or if the fabric is moving due to stretching or flagging,
>>>> etc...
>>>> But I know you know all about these issues already.
>>>> My question for you is that you say if you step up to a number 4 in MT,
>>>> then the sewing looks like crap.  How would you describe the crap in
>>>> question?  (If you know what I mean.)
>>>> I would think that using that "fine tuning" feature would be used for
>>>> something you were going to run a lot of, and had all new and clean
>>>> parts
>>>> (specifically thread feed rollers).  Features like this and the
>>>> "settings
>>>> by
>>>> color" option are not practical if you are only running, as we call
>>>> them,
>>>> "onesies".  If I were going to run three of the same thing or more, I
>>>> might
>>>> think about how to optimize my time by utilizing these features.  If 
>>>> you
>>>> wind up playing with the fine tuning thread feed feature, my only
>>>> recommendation to you is to practice to get an idea of what a change in
>>>> number will result on the garment and be sure to use new thread feed
>>>> rollers
>>>> and have a clean bobbin case with correct bobbin tension.  I say this
>>>> because you don't want to have variations caused by other areas when 
>>>> you
>>>> are
>>>> focusing on only one.
>>>> Best of luck to you.
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>>>> E.M. Broidery
>>>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>>>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>>>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of HK Acree
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:52 AM
>>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ATTENTION TECHIES,
>>>> Question is if I set my MT at a 4 and then go to settings (Amaya OS) 
>>>> and
>>>> adjust the thread feed to take some thread away, how much difference is
>>>> there between say a 50 and a 60. Is there any way to determine what % 
>>>> of
>>>> change you have just created. I have a situation where a 4 breaks
>>>> thread,
>>>> little to no bobbin showing so I drop to a 3 but the finished product
>>>> looks
>>>> like crap. Go to settings and add thread feed but I don't have enough
>>>> experience with this to find the "sweet spot". Maybe I am being too
>>>> conservative in the amount of change. Is a MT of 3 and thread feed of 
>>>> 40
>>>> actually a 4?????  ANYONE???  (Need more Experience)
>>>>
>>>> Herb
>>>> Royal Embroidery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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