[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed

Ed,
Appreciate the feed back. I have a few windshirts to do (148) and am 
starting with all new goodies. Your input on the bobbin tension was very 
interesting and therein  may be key to this. Maybe the light bulb just came 
on. The relationship between the top and bottom tensions is really all we 
are dealing with whether it be Actifeed or disc tensioning. Without making 
this way to complicated, At a MT of 4 I get popping thread breaks and what I 
would say is not quite looping, but close. Drop to a 3 and begin to 
experience fraying thread breaks. Have not changed the bobbin at this point 
but from your post my thinking is to stay at a 3 and loosen the bobbin 
slightly. What say you mud bug buddy?

Herb
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed


> Herb,
> I haven't had a great deal of experience with the "thread feed fine 
> tuning"
> feature under the settings tab.  Although I think it's great to have it
> there in case we need it, I feel it's one of those bells or whistles that
> are not practical for our needs.  My thoughts on this is that a MT of 3 or 
> 4
> or whatever whole number you choose, usually does the trick simply because
> the bobbin is capable of "taking up the slack" (figure of speech) in this
> area.  The bobbin should be allowed to slip through the bobbin case so 
> that
> the bobbin will dispense as needed after the thread feed system has
> delivered all it's going to deliver.  Meaning that if the thread feed 
> system
> was set too low, and there wasn't enough thread for that stitch, then the
> bobbin will have a greater length.  If the MT is set too high, chances are
> that you won't see any bobbin because it wasn't necessary as the excess
> thread wrapped around to the back side of the garment where the bobbin
> usually is.  If the thread feed is even higher than that, the exceptional
> amount of excess thread has no where to go so it sits up on top and bottom
> of the garment creating "Looping".
> Now there are a couple of things that can change what we think is
> controlled by the Material Thickness.  Not only do you have the setting in
> software (3,4,...) but if the bobbin tension is incorrect or simply dirty,
> or the thread feed roller is dirty or has grooves, or if the thread path 
> is
> obstructed, or if the fabric is moving due to stretching or flagging, 
> etc...
> But I know you know all about these issues already.
> My question for you is that you say if you step up to a number 4 in MT,
> then the sewing looks like crap.  How would you describe the crap in
> question?  (If you know what I mean.)
> I would think that using that "fine tuning" feature would be used for
> something you were going to run a lot of, and had all new and clean parts
> (specifically thread feed rollers).  Features like this and the "settings 
> by
> color" option are not practical if you are only running, as we call them,
> "onesies".  If I were going to run three of the same thing or more, I 
> might
> think about how to optimize my time by utilizing these features.  If you
> wind up playing with the fine tuning thread feed feature, my only
> recommendation to you is to practice to get an idea of what a change in
> number will result on the garment and be sure to use new thread feed 
> rollers
> and have a clean bobbin case with correct bobbin tension.  I say this
> because you don't want to have variations caused by other areas when you 
> are
> focusing on only one.
> Best of luck to you.
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of HK Acree
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed
>
>
> ATTENTION TECHIES,
> Question is if I set my MT at a 4 and then go to settings (Amaya OS) and
> adjust the thread feed to take some thread away, how much difference is
> there between say a 50 and a 60. Is there any way to determine what % of
> change you have just created. I have a situation where a 4 breaks thread,
> little to no bobbin showing so I drop to a 3 but the finished product 
> looks
> like crap. Go to settings and add thread feed but I don't have enough
> experience with this to find the "sweet spot". Maybe I am being too
> conservative in the amount of change. Is a MT of 3 and thread feed of 40
> actually a 4?????  ANYONE???  (Need more Experience)
>
> Herb
> Royal Embroidery
>
>
>

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