This message was posted by Body Cover on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/735.html#000002 We have had luck with a tip from a tech that came to work with us a long time ago. He used double zig-zag underlay at around a 6 and then the top satins would be more like a 5 or 5.5 on density. same thin thread and small needle. the trick seemed opposite of what I had thought since I figred less thread in a small area would be better, but it turned out that the high density numbers let the thread build height and thickness without the high number of needle penetrations and tightly packe thread that causes all the thread breaks, you may have to play with the numbers but I know they were a lot higher than I ever expected. Might be a way to get a new result on a project. Ron =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================