This message was posted by J&O Enterprises on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/142.html#000001 I think you'll find the structured hats easier. I've had a very hard time getting consistently good results with "unstructured" hats - so difficult that I've considered NEVER doing them or offering them again. Jim w. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================