This message was posted by SilverStar on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/386.html#000002 With the Hoopmaster 8x8 works great with the 15 cm hoop. I do use 7x7 for the 12 cm fixture just not as much. I cut off 1/2" from one side of an 8x8 to see what would happen. The magnets hold the piece in place fine but when hooped it does not leave enough material outside for a proper fit. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================