[amayausers] Re: Small Lettering

Wendy and All,

 I had an "uh oh" in my last post.  I used 40 weight ARC poly for the stuff
I did this AM, not 60 as I had written. Sorry about that. ARC only sells the
standard 40 weight threads.

Also, I would like to mention, Melco is currently working on what will be
called Melco University WEB Site. It can be viewed at
www.melcouniversity.com. The first on-line course will be for the Amaya
operation. This should be live and going by the end of January. Other
courses are scheduled for release as the new year progresses.

 Jeff Banks
 Melco Embroidery Systems


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wl solomonson" <wlsolomonson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [amayausers] Small Lettering


> Jeff,
> Info.like this is so helpful for me as a newcomer to the emb. world and
you,
> on more than one occassion, have taken the time to explain something in
> pretty good detail! That is truly appreciated on my part and I will be
> adding this e-mail to my well worn cheat-sheets.
> I think part of my frustration lies in the training I've had, some of the
> information was so vague and I've ended up doing alot of "what if" sewing
> until I figure it out. That has it's rewards when I conquer a problem but
I
> really wish there would be more substance to the training Melco offers new
> customers. I know there are alot of issues to consider in offering
training
> but a totally green person such as myself might need a lot more hand
holding
> during the learning process. This list, and a couple of others I belong
to,
> have been invaluable to me as I continue to learn.
> Wendy
> Itchin' To Stitch
> MN
>
>
> >From: "Jeff Banks" <jebanks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: [amayausers] Small Lettering
> >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:56:22 -0700
> >
> >Wendy,
> >
> >  Small Lettering is something that has been a struggle for people for as
> >long as I have been working for Melco. Not just on Melco machines, but in
> >general, on all machines. Many embroiders swear to the rule that small
> >lettering should be digitized. I feel that if the correct "recipe" is
used,
> >good results can be obtained with keyboard lettering as well.
> >
> >  I have collected information over the years that when I use this
> >information properly, I can produce pretty decent small lettering on the
> >Amaya.
> >
> >  Below is a quote on the recommended sizes from Tom Moore of Strawberry
> >Stitch Designs. He has been doing this for many years and is the author
of
> >Digitizing 101.
> >
> >"5mm ( .20" ) number is for mixed case (upper and lower case) direct
> >embroidery to a fabric and is the number you should be able to produce
with
> >quality. It also states you can go as small as 4mm ( .16" ) if
> >the letters are all uppercase. I also teach if you are sewing letters
over
> >a
> >fill or on top of polytwill ( similar to what patches are made of ) then
> >you
> >can go down to 3mm ( .12" )"
> >
> >  Use a 70/10 Sharp or 65/9 Sharp needle. I also use the DBXK5 needles as
> >the
> >larger eye helps with the thread passing through the needle. As the Amaya
> >is
> >tuned and adjusted to the Organ brand of needles, I suggest staying with
> >Organ. I also like the Titanium coated as they produce less friction
which
> >also produces less heat. (Heat=Threadbreaks).
> >
> >  On knits, cotton etc. use Solvy for topping. Backing used is generally
at
> >least one piece of medium cutaway, but it really depends on the garment.
On
> >more stable types of garments tear away works fine.
> >
> >  Generally, stay with a plain block type of alphabet. The Micro Block
> >alphabets within the Design Shop software were recently re-digitized for
> >specific use at small sizes. Others can be used, but insure you check the
> >Alphabet Code Sheets in the Design Shop Help system to insure it is
> >intended
> >for the size you are sewing. This AM I used the Micro Block CP, at .15",
No
> >added underlay, 120% column width and a 4.5 density. I also used the
Micro
> >Times and Mini Block at their minimum size recommended in the Alphabet
> >codes
> >sheets, but I used a density of 4.5. I used 60 weight ARC Poly thread
with
> >a
> >70/20 Sharp DBXK5 Titanium Organ needle. I sewed it on  Pique Knit using
> >the
> >words, "HI THIS IS A TEST".  I also used Micro Block on an ARC at .20
with
> >the sentence "Hello, This Is A Test Of Small Lettering". I had excellent
> >results with all. NOTE: Density really depends on the thread colors used
as
> >well. A black on white may need more density to get a good look than a
> >orange on white etc.
> >
> >  One step further is to go to a 50 or 60 weight thread. The smaller the
> >thread, the crisper and finer it looks. You generally have to use more
> >density when going to a smaller diameter thread, but the result is
> >excellent
> >and worth it when possible. I find the smaller the needle and thinner the
> >thread, the better the results.
> >
> >Jeff Banks
> >  Melco Embroidery Systems
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "wl solomonson" <wlsolomonson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 7:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [amayausers] E_mail may still not be working properly
> >
> >
> > > Larry and Connie,
> > > I agree too! We have to be picky as it is inevitable that one day we
> >will
> > > have a customer that is the same way. I have no solutions for this at
> >all
> > > but in my 'playtime', as I sew-out small lettering, I hope to come
> >across
> >a
> > > solution that works for me. If this happens I will definitely share
> >however
> > > in my opinion it is a machine issue that Melco should be constantly
> >working
> > > to improve. They've been the leader in machine technology with the
Amaya
> >so
> > > why not be the leader in this area as well? Just my two-cents on the
> > > subject.
> > > Wendy
> > > Itchin' To Stitch
> > > MN
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Captain Gold <captaingold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: Re: [amayausers] E_mail may still not be working properly
> > > >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:33:34 -0500
> > > >
> > > >I agree about the small lettering. I get very picky about how it
looks.
> >I'd
> > > >love to hear how others combat this issue.
> > > >
> > > >Connie Bechtel
> > > >Wyvern Productions
> > > >
> > > >At 08:50 PM 1/12/04, you wrote:
> > > >>Just got the wild idea to check all past history posts after I
didn't
> > > >>get one reply to my question about a carhart jacket supplier. Found
> > > >>there was a reply that I didn't get in my mail. Thanks for the info.
> >But
> > > >>in doing that research I found a reference from late 2001 about
> >backing
> > > >>'wet laid'. Can someone please explain what that is in reference to.
> > > >>Read a lot about problems and I would like to thank all of you who
> > > >>helped make the Amaya what it is today. After the regional tech got
a
> > > >>few problems ironed out early my machine runs real well, my hat is
off
> > > >>to ALL. The only big problem I have is with small lettering and
> >probably
> > > >>the biggest part of that problem is ME, I have been told I am to
picky
> > > >>for my own good but after all it's my name going out with the job.
> > > >>
> > > >>Larry Butler
> > > >>The ice_man@xxxxxxxxxxxxx in Pa.
> >
> >
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