[amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory

Ed,
That's just what I've been told by some engineers  and mechanics.  But then 
again, I've also been told that the IRS "is here to help"!   But I really 
have used WD to get gum off my shoe and that does work.
Frank
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:57 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory


> And all this time I thought it stood for the 40th recipe from the guy who
> invented it, Willy Dunlopps.
> Nah, just kidding.
> After all these years and all that I've squirted, I didn't realize I 
> didn't
> know what WD-40 stood for.  Thanks for that interesting tid bit, Frank.
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of frank davis
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:32 AM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
>
>
> I'll add to that Rod.  WD-40, I was always told, was originally made to
> displace water from electrical parts such as automotive ignition systems,
> hence WD... water displacing.  It does work great for that, along with the
> uses you describe.   One more little known and valuable use is removing 
> old
> gum from the bottom of your shoe!   That also works great.
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:04 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
>
>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> Been gone for awhile and maybe I am missing something here about the 
>> WD-40
>> thing. I have used WD-40 for a lot of things in my life including 
>> recently
>> using it to clean hoops with, yup clean  the sticky off the hoops when
>> using
>> the spray or sticky backing......well when you need sticky, you need it,
>> sometimes makes life easier and I tend to be lazy at times.........But
>> early
>> in life I learned that WD-40 is NOT a true lubricating oil and should not
>> be
>> used in that regard. It is more of a penetrating oil than anything else
>> and
>> will not stand up to the lubricating properties of good machine oils that
>> are manufactured for that purpose.
>>
>> WD-40 used as the lady described will certainly perform up to standard to
>> clean out the hook, this is called flushing the hook, but Ed is right,
>> true
>> lubricating oil must stack up to the engineering standards required for
>> the
>> machine(WD-40 does not meet this standard for long term lubrication) and
>> flushing the hook does create a clean up problem after words......not a
>> big
>> problem, just another thing to do in the flushing process so as not to
>> find
>> a soiled garment when the sewing begins again     .Iamsayingbasicallythe
>> same thing Ed did but with an added twist.
>>
>> The WD-40 process was  never meant to replace the proper machine oil to 
>> be
>> used on the Amaya or any other sewing machine for that matter, only as a
>> cleaning process
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Embroidery Cottage
>> Rod & Sharon Springer
>> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>>
>> Boise, ID  83713
>> 208-938-3038
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:12 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
>>
>>
>>> Guys,
>>> Sometimes, when troubleshooting a problem, trying things differently can
>>> give you vital informative results which leads you closer to a solution
>>> for
>>> that problem.  Even if you are instructed to do something different than
>>> what you had been taught previously.
>>> The Presser Foot, for most embroiderers is a relatively new concept. 
>>> Not
>>> really, it's been around since the beginning of sewing time, but on 
>>> some,
>>> if
>>> not all machines prior to the Amaya, the presser foot had no height
>>> adjustment or if it did, was so involved that no one ever changed it or
>>> even
>>> knew how.  So you ask, then why do I need a presser foot that has a
>>> variable
>>> height adjustment?
>>> First of all, the name, Presser foot, should have been called, the
>>> "Material Hold-down Foot".  Because that's what it's for - specifically
>>> as
>>> the needle is being removed from the fabric.  When you push the needle
>>> into
>>> the fabric, it's possible for the needle to "stick" or "wedge" itself
>>> between other tight stitches in the fabric.  If you didn't have a 
>>> presser
>>> foot on your machine, as the needle would rise back up, the fabric would
>>> go
>>> up with it.  Do this at a rapid pace and you've got what's called
>>> "vertical
>>> flagging" and as we all know, flagging in any direction in embroidery is
>>> a
>>> bad thing.  (The word flagging comes from what a flag looks like 
>>> whipping
>>> around in the wind.)
>>> On other machines, the presser foot is pretty much set at one height
>>> which
>>> is about an eight of an inch or so off the top of the needle plate. 
>>> This
>>> amount of space is adequate for most fabrics plus a few layers of 
>>> backing
>>> and topping too.  For most embroidery, this works great across the 
>>> board.
>>> If you have to go to something thicker like a thick suede, leather,
>>> blanket, jacket, bag, etc.. or say you put on the machine a thicker
>>> needle
>>> plate for doing caps, the presser foot will give because it's spring
>>> loaded
>>> and will push up if necessary.  However, the original height is now too
>>> low
>>> for these thicker applications and what results is a "peltering" or
>>> "beating
>>> of the fabric" by the presser foot.  This is very unnecessary and could
>>> leave marks on the fabric, create an annoying tapping noise on the
>>> machine,
>>> and in time, may cause for the inner workings of the presser foot
>>> mechanism
>>> to wear more so than not.  However, as a tech, I see this in people's
>>> shops
>>> all the time.  And they don't know any better, nor do they care.  It's
>>> just
>>> one more thing for them to think about and if the customer doesn't have 
>>> a
>>> problem with it, neither do they (I'm thinking about comments from the
>>> last
>>> customer I talked to about this).
>>> So on the Amaya, this subject was addressed by the engineers and the
>>> "easily adjustable presser foot" was born.  The operative word here is
>>> "easily".  Other machines have adjustments too but you have to remove
>>> machine covers, use screwdrivers, "eye ball" settings, etc..  More than
>>> anyone really cares to fool with.  Some embroiderers with older machines
>>> have addressed this issue by having a few of their needles set with a
>>> raised
>>> presser foot setting all the time.  When they do have to sew a thick
>>> garment, they simple use those particular needles.  That's one more
>>> benefit
>>> of having multiple needles on one machine.  **Remember that on other
>>> machines, each needle has it's own presser foot unlike the Amaya that 
>>> has
>>> one, that is shared by all 16 needles.
>>> So this is a real nifty "bells and whistle" type of feature that comes 
>>> in
>>> handy for those who choose to employ it's benefits.  If not, you can run
>>> your machine like all the other conventional type machines by simply
>>> lowering your presser foot to it's lowest setting and never touching it
>>> again.  It's really a matter of choice.
>>> One major problem Melco has had with this feature- the easily adjustable
>>> presser foot, is the "operator error" part of the deal.  The operator
>>> raises
>>> the presser foot to run a thick garment, and then forgets to lower it
>>> again
>>> for the next thinner garment.  What usually happens next are consistent
>>> thread breaks.  And the operator complains that the machine is "bad".  I
>>> wish I had a nickel for every time this has happened.
>>>
>>> So if someone in the technical department suggests for you to run your
>>> machine with the presser foot setting all the way down, and your 
>>> problems
>>> go
>>> away, it could have been an operator error type of problem.  If you do
>>> the
>>> same and you still have problems, then other areas of the machine should
>>> be
>>> considered.
>>>
>>> As for WD-40 on/in the machine...  you could put peanut butter in your
>>> rotary hook and I'm sure it would have some lubrication properties, but
>>> it
>>> would be a pain to get all of it out (especially the crunchy kind).  The
>>> oil
>>> that is recommended for the rotary hook is a clear, light weight, 
>>> minimal
>>> odor type of oil.  If you were to overdo it a little with too many drops
>>> of
>>> oil in the rotary hook and accidentally get oil on the garment, you 
>>> might
>>> be
>>> able to recover without a loss.  The issue with WD-40, and all other
>>> types
>>> of oils or lubricants is first, are they capable of lubricating the
>>> rotary
>>> hook to engineering standards and second, what kind of stain will you
>>> have
>>> to clean on the garment if you put too much WD-40 on the rotary hook.
>>> Remember that most cans of WD-40 have a sprayer type of nozzle which
>>> means
>>> if you're not careful, it's going everywhere you don't want it to be. 
>>> So
>>> it's really more of an issue of quantity and control.
>>> Hope this helps.  Now back to taxes...
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>>> E.M. Broidery
>>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Body Cover
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:46 AM
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>>>
>>>
>>> WHAT!?!??!
>>> I have trouble believing that they think the presser
>>> foot should be all the way down on everything!!
>>> That seems to go against all the documentation and
>>> common sense of why it is even there.
>>> Is it any wonder that we have so many problems
>>> when the people we count on for answers aren't
>>> even consistent.
>>>
>>> Oh well
>>> I also heard that we weren't supposed to touch the machine at all
>>> with WD-40 anywhere at anytime.
>>> I could be wrong though.
>>> I learn something new everyday.
>>>
>>> Ron Vinyard
>>> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
>>> 1-888-435-0176
>>>
>>> 420 SW H street
>>> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>>>
>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> www.bodycoverdesign.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:35 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I've been having problems with fraying threads on any/all needles.
>>> Thought
>>>> it had to do with operator errors (mine).  Tried many things, including
>>>> replacing all rollers, all needles, and bobbin case.  And checked 
>>>> rotary
>>>> hook for burrs and timing - seemed ok. Things improved but still a
>>>> problem
>>>> here and there.  Never could get a complete sew out without fraying
>>> thread.
>>>> Then it started getting worse again.  Finally came to my senses and
>>>> called
>>>> Melco.  The following is what they had me do to clean the rotary hook
>>> area.
>>>> Everything seems to be ok.  (They seemed to think that using adhesive
>>>> backing and spray adhesive tends to "mess" up the rotary hook area.)
>>>>
>>>> To clean out the rotary hook area:
>>>> Unthread at needle
>>>> Raise thread feed roller
>>>> Remove bobbin casing
>>>> Turn off thread detection in settings
>>>> Have machine speed set to at least 1100
>>>>
>>>> Start machine, when it gets up to speed:
>>>> spray WD40 soaking bobbin area
>>>> Spray air to blow out WD40
>>>>
>>>> Repeat
>>>>
>>>> (Note: may want to have cloth on table to catch excess)
>>>>
>>>> Stop machine
>>>>
>>>> "Trim Immediate" from keypad
>>>> Rethread machine
>>>> Close roller
>>>> Set thread detection on
>>>> Replace bobbin
>>>>
>>>> On another note he said to keep the pressure foot all the way down on
>>>> most
>>>> everything.  On towels maybe raise it 1-2 notches.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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