[amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory

And all this time I thought it stood for the 40th recipe from the guy who
invented it, Willy Dunlopps.
Nah, just kidding.
After all these years and all that I've squirted, I didn't realize I didn't
know what WD-40 stood for.  Thanks for that interesting tid bit, Frank.
Ed

Ed & Maralien Orantes
E.M. Broidery
900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
New Orleans, La. 70056
504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)

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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of frank davis
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:32 AM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory


I'll add to that Rod.  WD-40, I was always told, was originally made to
displace water from electrical parts such as automotive ignition systems,
hence WD... water displacing.  It does work great for that, along with the
uses you describe.   One more little known and valuable use is removing old
gum from the bottom of your shoe!   That also works great.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:04 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory


> Hey guys and gals,
>
> Been gone for awhile and maybe I am missing something here about the WD-40
> thing. I have used WD-40 for a lot of things in my life including recently
> using it to clean hoops with, yup clean  the sticky off the hoops when
> using
> the spray or sticky backing......well when you need sticky, you need it,
> sometimes makes life easier and I tend to be lazy at times.........But
> early
> in life I learned that WD-40 is NOT a true lubricating oil and should not
> be
> used in that regard. It is more of a penetrating oil than anything else
> and
> will not stand up to the lubricating properties of good machine oils that
> are manufactured for that purpose.
>
> WD-40 used as the lady described will certainly perform up to standard to
> clean out the hook, this is called flushing the hook, but Ed is right,
> true
> lubricating oil must stack up to the engineering standards required for
> the
> machine(WD-40 does not meet this standard for long term lubrication) and
> flushing the hook does create a clean up problem after words......not a
> big
> problem, just another thing to do in the flushing process so as not to
> find
> a soiled garment when the sewing begins again     .Iamsayingbasicallythe
> same thing Ed did but with an added twist.
>
> The WD-40 process was  never meant to replace the proper machine oil to be
> used on the Amaya or any other sewing machine for that matter, only as a
> cleaning process
>
> Rod
>
> Embroidery Cottage
> Rod & Sharon Springer
> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>
> Boise, ID  83713
> 208-938-3038
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:12 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
>
>
>> Guys,
>> Sometimes, when troubleshooting a problem, trying things differently can
>> give you vital informative results which leads you closer to a solution
>> for
>> that problem.  Even if you are instructed to do something different than
>> what you had been taught previously.
>> The Presser Foot, for most embroiderers is a relatively new concept.  Not
>> really, it's been around since the beginning of sewing time, but on some,
>> if
>> not all machines prior to the Amaya, the presser foot had no height
>> adjustment or if it did, was so involved that no one ever changed it or
>> even
>> knew how.  So you ask, then why do I need a presser foot that has a
>> variable
>> height adjustment?
>> First of all, the name, Presser foot, should have been called, the
>> "Material Hold-down Foot".  Because that's what it's for - specifically
>> as
>> the needle is being removed from the fabric.  When you push the needle
>> into
>> the fabric, it's possible for the needle to "stick" or "wedge" itself
>> between other tight stitches in the fabric.  If you didn't have a presser
>> foot on your machine, as the needle would rise back up, the fabric would
>> go
>> up with it.  Do this at a rapid pace and you've got what's called
>> "vertical
>> flagging" and as we all know, flagging in any direction in embroidery is
>> a
>> bad thing.  (The word flagging comes from what a flag looks like whipping
>> around in the wind.)
>> On other machines, the presser foot is pretty much set at one height
>> which
>> is about an eight of an inch or so off the top of the needle plate.  This
>> amount of space is adequate for most fabrics plus a few layers of backing
>> and topping too.  For most embroidery, this works great across the board.
>> If you have to go to something thicker like a thick suede, leather,
>> blanket, jacket, bag, etc.. or say you put on the machine a thicker
>> needle
>> plate for doing caps, the presser foot will give because it's spring
>> loaded
>> and will push up if necessary.  However, the original height is now too
>> low
>> for these thicker applications and what results is a "peltering" or
>> "beating
>> of the fabric" by the presser foot.  This is very unnecessary and could
>> leave marks on the fabric, create an annoying tapping noise on the
>> machine,
>> and in time, may cause for the inner workings of the presser foot
>> mechanism
>> to wear more so than not.  However, as a tech, I see this in people's
>> shops
>> all the time.  And they don't know any better, nor do they care.  It's
>> just
>> one more thing for them to think about and if the customer doesn't have a
>> problem with it, neither do they (I'm thinking about comments from the
>> last
>> customer I talked to about this).
>> So on the Amaya, this subject was addressed by the engineers and the
>> "easily adjustable presser foot" was born.  The operative word here is
>> "easily".  Other machines have adjustments too but you have to remove
>> machine covers, use screwdrivers, "eye ball" settings, etc..  More than
>> anyone really cares to fool with.  Some embroiderers with older machines
>> have addressed this issue by having a few of their needles set with a
>> raised
>> presser foot setting all the time.  When they do have to sew a thick
>> garment, they simple use those particular needles.  That's one more
>> benefit
>> of having multiple needles on one machine.  **Remember that on other
>> machines, each needle has it's own presser foot unlike the Amaya that has
>> one, that is shared by all 16 needles.
>> So this is a real nifty "bells and whistle" type of feature that comes in
>> handy for those who choose to employ it's benefits.  If not, you can run
>> your machine like all the other conventional type machines by simply
>> lowering your presser foot to it's lowest setting and never touching it
>> again.  It's really a matter of choice.
>> One major problem Melco has had with this feature- the easily adjustable
>> presser foot, is the "operator error" part of the deal.  The operator
>> raises
>> the presser foot to run a thick garment, and then forgets to lower it
>> again
>> for the next thinner garment.  What usually happens next are consistent
>> thread breaks.  And the operator complains that the machine is "bad".  I
>> wish I had a nickel for every time this has happened.
>>
>> So if someone in the technical department suggests for you to run your
>> machine with the presser foot setting all the way down, and your problems
>> go
>> away, it could have been an operator error type of problem.  If you do
>> the
>> same and you still have problems, then other areas of the machine should
>> be
>> considered.
>>
>> As for WD-40 on/in the machine...  you could put peanut butter in your
>> rotary hook and I'm sure it would have some lubrication properties, but
>> it
>> would be a pain to get all of it out (especially the crunchy kind).  The
>> oil
>> that is recommended for the rotary hook is a clear, light weight, minimal
>> odor type of oil.  If you were to overdo it a little with too many drops
>> of
>> oil in the rotary hook and accidentally get oil on the garment, you might
>> be
>> able to recover without a loss.  The issue with WD-40, and all other
>> types
>> of oils or lubricants is first, are they capable of lubricating the
>> rotary
>> hook to engineering standards and second, what kind of stain will you
>> have
>> to clean on the garment if you put too much WD-40 on the rotary hook.
>> Remember that most cans of WD-40 have a sprayer type of nozzle which
>> means
>> if you're not careful, it's going everywhere you don't want it to be.  So
>> it's really more of an issue of quantity and control.
>> Hope this helps.  Now back to taxes...
>> Ed
>>
>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>> E.M. Broidery
>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Body Cover
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:46 AM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>>
>>
>> WHAT!?!??!
>> I have trouble believing that they think the presser
>> foot should be all the way down on everything!!
>> That seems to go against all the documentation and
>> common sense of why it is even there.
>> Is it any wonder that we have so many problems
>> when the people we count on for answers aren't
>> even consistent.
>>
>> Oh well
>> I also heard that we weren't supposed to touch the machine at all
>> with WD-40 anywhere at anytime.
>> I could be wrong though.
>> I learn something new everyday.
>>
>> Ron Vinyard
>> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
>> 1-888-435-0176
>>
>> 420 SW H street
>> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>>
>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.bodycoverdesign.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:35 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've been having problems with fraying threads on any/all needles.
>> Thought
>>> it had to do with operator errors (mine).  Tried many things, including
>>> replacing all rollers, all needles, and bobbin case.  And checked rotary
>>> hook for burrs and timing - seemed ok. Things improved but still a
>>> problem
>>> here and there.  Never could get a complete sew out without fraying
>> thread.
>>> Then it started getting worse again.  Finally came to my senses and
>>> called
>>> Melco.  The following is what they had me do to clean the rotary hook
>> area.
>>> Everything seems to be ok.  (They seemed to think that using adhesive
>>> backing and spray adhesive tends to "mess" up the rotary hook area.)
>>>
>>> To clean out the rotary hook area:
>>> Unthread at needle
>>> Raise thread feed roller
>>> Remove bobbin casing
>>> Turn off thread detection in settings
>>> Have machine speed set to at least 1100
>>>
>>> Start machine, when it gets up to speed:
>>> spray WD40 soaking bobbin area
>>> Spray air to blow out WD40
>>>
>>> Repeat
>>>
>>> (Note: may want to have cloth on table to catch excess)
>>>
>>> Stop machine
>>>
>>> "Trim Immediate" from keypad
>>> Rethread machine
>>> Close roller
>>> Set thread detection on
>>> Replace bobbin
>>>
>>> On another note he said to keep the pressure foot all the way down on
>>> most
>>> everything.  On towels maybe raise it 1-2 notches.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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