[amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory

Ditto, Ed is the man!
Peter Strike
Indianapolis, IN
--- Body Cover <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Ed,
> You explained that very well
> and shined some light on the subject that I hadn't
> seen before, It makes perfect sense now. 
> and I apologize to any Melco participants that may
> have taken offense to my comment.
> It was very confusing until you explained that.
> 
> Ed, you the man!!
> 
> Ron Vinyard
> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> 1-888-435-0176
> 
> 420 SW H street
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
> 
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.bodycoverdesign.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:12 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
> 
> 
> > Guys,
> > Sometimes, when troubleshooting a problem, trying things
> differently can
> > give you vital informative results which leads you closer to a
> solution for
> > that problem.  Even if you are instructed to do something different
> than
> > what you had been taught previously.
> > The Presser Foot, for most embroiderers is a relatively new
> concept.  Not
> > really, it's been around since the beginning of sewing time, but on
> some, if
> > not all machines prior to the Amaya, the presser foot had no height
> > adjustment or if it did, was so involved that no one ever changed
> it or even
> > knew how.  So you ask, then why do I need a presser foot that has a
> variable
> > height adjustment?
> > First of all, the name, Presser foot, should have been called, the
> > "Material Hold-down Foot".  Because that's what it's for -
> specifically as
> > the needle is being removed from the fabric.  When you push the
> needle into
> > the fabric, it's possible for the needle to "stick" or "wedge"
> itself
> > between other tight stitches in the fabric.  If you didn't have a
> presser
> > foot on your machine, as the needle would rise back up, the fabric
> would go
> > up with it.  Do this at a rapid pace and you've got what's called
> "vertical
> > flagging" and as we all know, flagging in any direction in
> embroidery is a
> > bad thing.  (The word flagging comes from what a flag looks like
> whipping
> > around in the wind.)
> > On other machines, the presser foot is pretty much set at one
> height which
> > is about an eight of an inch or so off the top of the needle plate.
>  This
> > amount of space is adequate for most fabrics plus a few layers of
> backing
> > and topping too.  For most embroidery, this works great across the
> board.
> > If you have to go to something thicker like a thick suede, leather,
> > blanket, jacket, bag, etc.. or say you put on the machine a thicker
> needle
> > plate for doing caps, the presser foot will give because it's
> spring loaded
> > and will push up if necessary.  However, the original height is now
> too low
> > for these thicker applications and what results is a "peltering" or
> "beating
> > of the fabric" by the presser foot.  This is very unnecessary and
> could
> > leave marks on the fabric, create an annoying tapping noise on the
> machine,
> > and in time, may cause for the inner workings of the presser foot
> mechanism
> > to wear more so than not.  However, as a tech, I see this in
> people's shops
> > all the time.  And they don't know any better, nor do they care. 
> It's just
> > one more thing for them to think about and if the customer doesn't
> have a
> > problem with it, neither do they (I'm thinking about comments from
> the last
> > customer I talked to about this).
> > So on the Amaya, this subject was addressed by the engineers and
> the
> > "easily adjustable presser foot" was born.  The operative word here
> is
> > "easily".  Other machines have adjustments too but you have to
> remove
> > machine covers, use screwdrivers, "eye ball" settings, etc..  More
> than
> > anyone really cares to fool with.  Some embroiderers with older
> machines
> > have addressed this issue by having a few of their needles set with
> a raised
> > presser foot setting all the time.  When they do have to sew a
> thick
> > garment, they simple use those particular needles.  That's one more
> benefit
> > of having multiple needles on one machine.  **Remember that on
> other
> > machines, each needle has it's own presser foot unlike the Amaya
> that has
> > one, that is shared by all 16 needles.
> > So this is a real nifty "bells and whistle" type of feature that
> comes in
> > handy for those who choose to employ it's benefits.  If not, you
> can run
> > your machine like all the other conventional type machines by
> simply
> > lowering your presser foot to it's lowest setting and never
> touching it
> > again.  It's really a matter of choice.
> > One major problem Melco has had with this feature- the easily
> adjustable
> > presser foot, is the "operator error" part of the deal.  The
> operator raises
> > the presser foot to run a thick garment, and then forgets to lower
> it again
> > for the next thinner garment.  What usually happens next are
> consistent
> > thread breaks.  And the operator complains that the machine is
> "bad".  I
> > wish I had a nickel for every time this has happened.
> > 
> > So if someone in the technical department suggests for you to run
> your
> > machine with the presser foot setting all the way down, and your
> problems go
> > away, it could have been an operator error type of problem.  If you
> do the
> > same and you still have problems, then other areas of the machine
> should be
> > considered.
> > 
> > As for WD-40 on/in the machine...  you could put peanut butter in
> your
> > rotary hook and I'm sure it would have some lubrication properties,
> but it
> > would be a pain to get all of it out (especially the crunchy kind).
>  The oil
> > that is recommended for the rotary hook is a clear, light weight,
> minimal
> > odor type of oil.  If you were to overdo it a little with too many
> drops of
> > oil in the rotary hook and accidentally get oil on the garment, you
> might be
> > able to recover without a loss.  The issue with WD-40, and all
> other types
> > of oils or lubricants is first, are they capable of lubricating the
> rotary
> > hook to engineering standards and second, what kind of stain will
> you have
> > to clean on the garment if you put too much WD-40 on the rotary
> hook.
> > Remember that most cans of WD-40 have a sprayer type of nozzle
> which means
> > if you're not careful, it's going everywhere you don't want it to
> be.  So
> > it's really more of an issue of quantity and control.
> > Hope this helps.  Now back to taxes...
> > Ed
> > 
> > Ed & Maralien Orantes
> > E.M. Broidery
> > 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> > New Orleans, La. 70056
> > 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Body Cover
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:46 AM
> > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
> > 
> > 
> > WHAT!?!??!
> > I have trouble believing that they think the presser
> > foot should be all the way down on everything!!
> > That seems to go against all the documentation and
> > common sense of why it is even there.
> > Is it any wonder that we have so many problems
> > when the people we count on for answers aren't
> > even consistent.
> > 
> > Oh well
> > I also heard that we weren't supposed to touch the machine at all
> > with WD-40 anywhere at anytime.
> > I could be wrong though.
> > I learn something new everyday.
> > 
> > Ron Vinyard
> > Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> > 1-888-435-0176
> > 
> > 420 SW H street
> > Grants Pass, OR 97526
> > 
> > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.bodycoverdesign.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:35 AM
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
> > 
> > 
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I've been having problems with fraying threads on any/all needles.
> > Thought
> >> it had to do with operator errors (mine).  Tried many things,
> including
> >> replacing all rollers, all needles, and bobbin case.  And checked
> rotary
> >> hook for burrs and timing - seemed ok. Things improved but still a
> problem
> >> here and there.  Never could get a complete sew out without
> fraying
> > thread.
> >> Then it started getting worse again.  Finally came to my senses
> and called
> >> Melco.  The following is what they had me do to clean the rotary
> hook
> > area.
> >> Everything seems to be ok.  (They seemed to think that using
> adhesive
> >> backing and spray adhesive tends to "mess" up the rotary hook
> area.)
> >>
> >> To clean out the rotary hook area:
> >> Unthread at needle
> >> Raise thread feed roller
> >> Remove bobbin casing
> >> Turn off thread detection in settings
> >> Have machine speed set to at least 1100
> >>
> >> Start machine, when it gets up to speed:
> >> spray WD40 soaking bobbin area
> >> Spray air to blow out WD40
> >>
> >> Repeat
> >>
> >> (Note: may want to have cloth on table to catch excess)
> >>
> >> Stop machine
> >>
> >> "Trim Immediate" from keypad
> >> Rethread machine
> >> Close roller
> >> Set thread detection on
> >> Replace bobbin
> >>
> >> On another note he said to keep the pressure foot all the way down
> on most
> >> everything.  On towels maybe raise it 1-2 notches.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> >
> 
>

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