[amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted
- From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:19 -0400
I'd like to see that design some time! Hate to have to do volume work with a
design like that-so many color changes. Can't even imagine the days you must
have spent for the digitizing. I still can't get 'auto digitize' to work
worth a dang nickle...just gives my lousy garbage and too many colors and
changes that won't sew decent.
When you have the orders it is nice to have all the machines...I got the
Amaya to pick up the small accounts I'd been losing to some garageshop
businesses....couple of them opened up-with small embroidery machines, small
vinyl cutters, etc. trying to get some of my 'pie' out here. Now I can offer
the small lot embroidery jobs, or farm out the big stuff, and still keep the
customer for the screenprinting, engraving, signs and banners, and ad
specialty stuff....so I"m back to a 'one stop shop' for the clients. Next up
will be a digital printer/cutter to pick up all the outsourcing I've been
forced to do for digital full color jobs....replace my cutter with a Roland
Versa Camm and then there is nothing I can't do! But I'll still be farming
out the high volume stuff. Only have about 2000 sq ft for shop, workshop,
office, etc. so it's getting pretty crowded in here!
> From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0700
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted
>
> Roland,
>
> The 2 heads is just what I sew those particular hats on. 1 for the front
> and 1 for the back. For Allstars I use about half or more of my machines (I
> have 13 heads total). I sew caps on 4 heads and the rest I use for flats
> with my 4 head and AMAYA's running most my contract work.
>
> Speaking of large designs, I have a full jacket back that I digitized in
> memory of my mom thats 215k stitches with something like 48 color changes.
> It takes around 4 hours to sew and it turns out pretty nice. The AMAYA cuts
> down about 1 1/2 - 2 hours sew time over my EMT's for this design
>
> Aaron Sargent
> The Linen Barn
> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Medford, OR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:23 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted
>
>
> DAng!!!! just two heads and that kind of volume!
> I sent out an order for 100 hats because we figured it would take us over 20
> hours! Takes longer to hoop the darn things than to embroider them.
> One jacket we do for a client takes an hour and a half PER JACKET-almost an
> hour for the back-67000 stitches, then two hoopings for the front-small logo
> one side, name on the other. Real pain hooping the heavy canvas jackets.
> First time we did it was when we found a defective in Designshop Pro-tore
> out one jacket SIX times before we got the problem solved...still waiting
> for our PROMISED upgrade to the new program...and still getting lip service
> from Denver about getting it for free....
> Don't wear your fingers off with all the work...
> If I didn't have the facets of the business I'd be doing it all in house to,
> but I've got the engraving business, screen printing, signs and banners,
> etc. so I don't have the time to babysit the Amaya. Easier to send off the
> large quantities after I've proofed it out.
> Roland
>
>> From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:46:57 -0700
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted
>>
>> Prices are going to vary by your market area as well. I do most of my
>> contract work for .50 per thousand. I have to have enough retail work to
>> make up for the low $$$ on contract work, but the contract work is much
>> easier and generally is higher volume orders which keeps all the heads
>> running. I have one customer I do hats for, flexfits front and back for
>> $2.85. I can do 100 in about 6 hours using 2 single heads.
>>
>> The end of June and first part of July I do tons of ALLSTARS hats and
>> jackets. I worked 10-14 hours days all this week (my 2 part time
>> employees
>> decided to take vacation this week) and still had to come in at 6 this
>> morning. Almost done with hats and visors (3-4 logos per hat/visor) so
>> next
>> week I can start my jacket backs (I expect around 150 - 200 this year) and
>> hopefully still get a few days off for the 4th :)
>>
>> As far as hats go you don't have to sell them for $5 to get them out the
>> door. I do around 2500 hats a month and sell them for $8-10 with no
>> complaints from my customers. The price shoppers will go to places like
>> Otto to get a deal but I find lots of people would rather put money back
>> into the local economy and deal with local businesses.
>>
>> Guess I better get on these names, got 35 more to do by 11:00 :)
>>
>> Aaron Sargent
>> The Linen Barn
>> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Medford, OR
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:56 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted
>>
>>
>> Jack, I wasn't busting over the shirt markup...was just comparing to what
>> happens around here. Sometimes I realize you have to 'eat' the
>> sewing/screening but make it on markup...all turns to $$ in the end.
>> I get really hosed because I only have the one head-but now I'm tied to a
>> Melco tech that has 10 amayas and a 12head barrudan...I can now design and
>> proof it here, email to him and have shirts/hats drop shipped to him. I
>> think his charge for the last job was about 50-75¢ a thousand...I really
>> didn't mind much because it was a rush job for a good account, and I made
>> it
>> on the hat markup-still made about 100% (or 50%) if you figure the other
>> way
>> markup. Doubled my cost...and didn't spend 3 days zoning out on the one
>> head.
>> I have catalogs and flyers coming in my office everyday since I"m an
>> independant ad specialty rep-and have one right here...structured poplin
>> cap, 150 minimum, 3,000 stitches...NET PRICE of $2.99. How can we even
>> come
>> close to that? You can't-don't bother. But look at it this way-customer
>> has
>> NO CHOICE of hat style, limited color choice, setup of $75, freight, and
>> how
>> many hat logos are 3,000 stitiches? Not one that I've done...hey, only 25¢
>> per thousand extra, but that's a half a buck retail so it adds up.
>> My AVERAGE hat going out the door the last month was $10-$15.....on
>> flexfit
>> structured hats-8,9, even 10k stitches. Only doing 6-12 hats per order,
>> but
>> that's all the customer wants...and I did a couple jackets for one guy,
>> $75
>> each...another customer, 12 jackets, Sanmar work jacket. $69 for the
>> jacket,
>> $110 for the stitches! Back alone was 69,000 stitches and then another 30k
>> on the front. And he walked out happy along with his $15 hats!
>> So I don't regret losing a 700 shirt order (screenprinted) that would have
>> made me a profit of $200 for 2 days work....I did 3 customer orders in the
>> same time for screenprinting, embroidery, some signs, magnets,
>> whatever-and
>> grossed about $3000. with a net around $1200 for the same time period.
>> Yeah, I'd love to have another one or two Amayas....maybe later.
>>
>>
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