[amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted

  • From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0700

Roland,

The 2 heads is just what I sew those particular hats on. 1 for the front and 1 for the back. For Allstars I use about half or more of my machines (I have 13 heads total). I sew caps on 4 heads and the rest I use for flats with my 4 head and AMAYA's running most my contract work.

Speaking of large designs, I have a full jacket back that I digitized in memory of my mom thats 215k stitches with something like 48 color changes. It takes around 4 hours to sew and it turns out pretty nice. The AMAYA cuts down about 1 1/2 - 2 hours sew time over my EMT's for this design

Aaron Sargent
The Linen Barn
linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
Medford, OR
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted



DAng!!!! just two heads and that kind of volume! I sent out an order for 100 hats because we figured it would take us over 20 hours! Takes longer to hoop the darn things than to embroider them. One jacket we do for a client takes an hour and a half PER JACKET-almost an hour for the back-67000 stitches, then two hoopings for the front-small logo one side, name on the other. Real pain hooping the heavy canvas jackets. First time we did it was when we found a defective in Designshop Pro-tore out one jacket SIX times before we got the problem solved...still waiting for our PROMISED upgrade to the new program...and still getting lip service from Denver about getting it for free.... Don't wear your fingers off with all the work... If I didn't have the facets of the business I'd be doing it all in house to, but I've got the engraving business, screen printing, signs and banners, etc. so I don't have the time to babysit the Amaya. Easier to send off the large quantities after I've proofed it out. Roland

From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:46:57 -0700
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted

Prices are going to vary by your market area as well.  I do most of my
contract work for .50 per thousand.  I have to have enough retail work to
make up for the low $$$ on contract work, but the contract work is much
easier and generally is higher volume orders which keeps all the heads
running.  I have one customer I do hats for, flexfits front and back for
$2.85.  I can do 100 in about 6 hours using 2 single heads.

The end of June and first part of July I do tons of ALLSTARS hats and
jackets. I worked 10-14 hours days all this week (my 2 part time employees
decided to take vacation this week) and still had to come in at 6 this
morning. Almost done with hats and visors (3-4 logos per hat/visor) so next
week I can start my jacket backs (I expect around 150 - 200 this year) and
hopefully still get a few days off for the 4th :)


As far as hats go you don't have to sell them for $5 to get them out the
door.  I do around 2500 hats a month and sell them for $8-10 with no
complaints from my customers.  The price shoppers will go to places like
Otto to get a deal but I find lots of people would rather put money back
into the local economy and deal with local businesses.

Guess I better get on these names, got 35 more to do by 11:00 :)

Aaron Sargent
The Linen Barn
linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
Medford, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions wanted


Jack, I wasn't busting over the shirt markup...was just comparing to what
happens around here. Sometimes I realize you have to 'eat' the
sewing/screening but make it on markup...all turns to $$ in the end.
I get really hosed because I only have the one head-but now I'm tied to a
Melco tech that has 10 amayas and a 12head barrudan...I can now design and
proof it here, email to him and have shirts/hats drop shipped to him. I
think his charge for the last job was about 50-75¢ a thousand...I really
didn't mind much because it was a rush job for a good account, and I made it
on the hat markup-still made about 100% (or 50%) if you figure the other way
markup. Doubled my cost...and didn't spend 3 days zoning out on the one
head.
I have catalogs and flyers coming in my office everyday since I"m an
independant ad specialty rep-and have one right here...structured poplin
cap, 150 minimum, 3,000 stitches...NET PRICE of $2.99. How can we even come
close to that? You can't-don't bother. But look at it this way-customer has
NO CHOICE of hat style, limited color choice, setup of $75, freight, and how
many hat logos are 3,000 stitiches? Not one that I've done...hey, only 25¢
per thousand extra, but that's a half a buck retail so it adds up.
My AVERAGE hat going out the door the last month was $10-$15.....on flexfit
structured hats-8,9, even 10k stitches. Only doing 6-12 hats per order, but
that's all the customer wants...and I did a couple jackets for one guy, $75
each...another customer, 12 jackets, Sanmar work jacket. $69 for the jacket,
$110 for the stitches! Back alone was 69,000 stitches and then another 30k
on the front. And he walked out happy along with his $15 hats!
So I don't regret losing a 700 shirt order (screenprinted) that would have
made me a profit of $200 for 2 days work....I did 3 customer orders in the
same time for screenprinting, embroidery, some signs, magnets, whatever-and
grossed about $3000. with a net around $1200 for the same time period.
Yeah, I'd love to have another one or two Amayas....maybe later.





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