[amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise

Sandra...you need to find a subcontractor that will supply the  
shirts, etc.
for your job-instead of you shipping both ways.
I do a lot of small sub jobs for other engraving shops and such-and  
make it
clear up front that I prefer to supply the goods-so I know what I am  
getting,
and also I get a few extra. So they don't pay the freight-only for  
the finished
goods. 34 shirts IS a small job...and my price list has a break at 36- 
so I would
have tried hard to get the customer to take 2 more...usually works.
But the CUSTOMERS have to be educated-that SMALL orders just are NOT
going to be cheap per shirt-I had a guy come in late Thursday that  
wanted
iron on's to add his name, etc. to his 'work shirts' for the highway  
dept.
He thought I could just whip them out on a printer and he could iron  
them
on at home-for $1 APIECE! After 30 minutes I still don't think I had  
him understanding
that there was no way I could supply him with anything he could 'iron  
on' AT HOME,
on WORN CLOTHING....that would stick.
Would he order new shirts so I could screen them? Nope....somehow he  
thought
he could get it done for $1 a shirt.
No difference with commercial accounts-they get prices for 144 or 288  
shirts-and then
come back expecting to order just a dozen AT THE SAME PRICE....
so I have to explain-no matter if I do 1 shirt or 1000 , I already  
have an hour and a half
of labor for the job-setup, design time, burning a screen, washout,  
and then cleanup and
stripping afterwards. No matter how many. Embroidery...still have to  
digitize the design-
no matter how many. So the fewer they get, the more it costs.
If you can educate the customer-you can get the jobs and still make  
money.
Most people now adays don't even think about 'freight'...when they  
pay $9.95 for
'shipping and handling' to get a CD off the late nite tv...it really  
only costs about 75¢
but they don't think about it. So go ahead and add the freight in  
separately...I'll bet the
competition does the same thing.
Roland

On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:

> Thanks Roland.
> Yes, I have a Sanmar account (I love that company!) and get free  
> shipping on
> orders over $200, free catalogs, personalized website, etc.  And I  
> haven't
> done $20K worth of business with them yet, but they still go out of  
> their
> way to work with me.  So I don't use any other suppliers.
>
> Some of my orders are small and don't amount to $200 to qualify for  
> free
> shipping, although I try to group orders to meet that threshold  
> when I can.
> What I was referring to in my earlier email was paying to drop-ship  
> from
> Sanmar to a subcontractor, say the Beauregards in Vermont, and then  
> paying
> the shipping from Vermont to me on the finished goods.  On a recent  
> quote I
> worked on for 34 tee shirts, the combined UPS ground shipping came  
> to $41;
> priority mail would have been even more - YIKES!  That adds a lot  
> to the
> price I have to get for things I sub out.
>
> Any ideas?
> Sandra Walker
> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
> Montgomery, Texas
> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:10 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>
>
>> Sandra, if you can get setup with Sanmar as a commercial account, you
>> don't pay
>> shipping on orders over $200.00 which is how I do it.
>> And customers always pay the shipping-even on the low price 'import'
>> deals
>> I get through ad specialties...so unless there is a big multihead
>> house nearby
>> that you are competing with-there is always a freight charge.
>> Roland
>>
>> Sunrise Graphics
>> 116 Main St
>> Claremont, NH 03743
>> 603-543-1324
>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>> Photoshop (v.6) for images, artwork, logos-preferred for logo and
>> sign work is Macromedia Freehand, any version, sent
>> to our email-we are all MAC based graphic programs here
>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in Texas, just North of Houston, and so far the shipping cost  
>>> from
>>> Sanmar to the contractor + shipping finished goods to me has been
>>> prohibitive.  Either I eat the shipping and lose money (which I
>>> can't afford
>>> and would be dumb anyway) or the potential customer goes someplace
>>> else.
>>>
>>> Haven't been able to figure a cost-effective way to do this yet.  
>>> Am I
>>> missing something?  Or is there somebody out there close to me who
>>> does
>>> contract work?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sandra Walker
>>> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
>>> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
>>> Montgomery, Texas
>>> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "r.rinehartsr" <drader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:46 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone on the list from the mid-section of the nation doing
>>>> contract work?
>>>> Debbie Rinehart
>>>> Deb'z-N-Stitches
>>>> Martinsville, In.
>>>> 765-342-7392
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Linen Barn
>>>>  To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:12 AM
>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>>
>>>>  It depends on what the market will bear.  If they were selling  
>>>> them
>>>> before
>>>>  for $12 then they probably want to still sell them for that and
>>>> still
>>>> make a
>>>>  profit.  If I were to bid this I would do them for $7 each.  Now
>>>> I have
>>>> 12
>>>>  heads so running 100 hats at 7500 stitches would take me 8-10
>>>> hours on my
>>>> 2
>>>>  head.  Making $500 on my 2 head is not bad considering I do
>>>> contract work
>>>> on
>>>>  it all the time where I make $300 a day.  You can send the hats
>>>> to me and
>>>> I
>>>>  would do them as contract work for $3.50 each and you could make
>>>> $1.50
>>>> per
>>>>  hat for doing nothing other than drop shipping the hats to me and
>>>> delivering
>>>>  them.  Or as Roland said you can have one of the overseas or large
>>>>  embroidery places do them for $4 each and make $3 a hat for
>>>> contracting
>>>> it
>>>>  out.  Sometimes the smaller shops eigher have to contract out,  
>>>> make
>>>> little
>>>>  money per item or pass on orders to make it.  There is no reason
>>>> to run
>>>> low
>>>>  paying jobs on a single head which ties it up so you can't get  
>>>> your
>>>> higher
>>>>  paying jobs done when you can have contractors do it that are
>>>> used to
>>>> making
>>>>  the lower $$$ per item but are reliant on quantities.  You also
>>>> need to
>>>> make
>>>>  sure that if you do contract it out that you use one that does
>>>> quality
>>>> work
>>>>  with good turn times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Aaron Sargent
>>>>  The Linen Barn
>>>>  linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  541-770-2957
>>>>  Medford, OR
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Susan Davidson" <Sewfly@xxxxxxx>
>>>>  To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:35 PM
>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Need pricing advise
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am in the process of putting in a bid for a hat order and am in
>>>>> need
>>>> of
>>>>> help!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have already digitized the logo in question.....the group really
>>>> likes
>>>>> it.....but I want to stay competitive.  I am sure that my stitch
>>>>> count
>>>> is
>>>>> much higher than the last shop that did hats for this  
>>>>> organization.
>>>> (My
>>>>> husband purchased for $12.00 one of the other's hat so that I  
>>>>> could
>>>>> compare
>>>>> apples to apples on the hat itself.  And I see my logo is  
>>>>> definitely
>>>> much
>>>>> more detailed.)
>>>>>
>>>>> My stitch count is in the 7500 range.  The hat price per piece/
>>>>> broken
>>>>> dozen
>>>>> is $2.50 and by the dozen it is $1.97 regardless of how many  
>>>>> dozen I
>>>>> purchase.  The hat is Otto's mesh 19-366, however, I am going to
>>>> suggest
>>>>> Otto's mesh 27-364.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, I know this is a
>>>>> dilemma
>>>> for
>>>>> many.
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan
>>>>> Sewfly Embroidery
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