Melco Mart has all the PMS-Thread colors if you call them. I don't know why they don't put it on thier website. Or at least put it in the flyers they mail out every couple months. From: "Image Embroidery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:49:11 -0400 Hello all, What is the Arc Poly color match for PMS 186? Thanks, LuAnn @ Image Embroidery