[amayausers] Re: Melco Lettering - Micro Block and More

Jeff,
I can't really speak for others on the list but I just want to tell you that 
I really appreciate the time you take to post understandable explanations 
for issues that come up on the list. So far I've printed several things that 
you have explained in detail and I keep going back to them when I'm trying 
to troubleshoot an issue. Of the three lists that I regularly monitor and 
post on, the Amaya list is definitely been the most worthwhile.
I do have one question on the DS upgrade. I purchased in August of 2003 so 
I'm understanding the upgrade is free for me, correct? If so, is it an 
automatic ship or will I need to contact my salesperson in Denver?
Thanks again for all your patient help!
Wendy
Itchin' To Stitch
MN


>From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [amayausers] Melco Lettering - Micro Block and More
>Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:41:41 -0700
>
>Hi All,
>
>  I have noticed some posts regarding lettering and use of Tie Stitches 
>etc.
>I feel a post with some tips and information about Melco alphabets would
>help.
>
>  Most of the Melco alphabets have some kind of Ties built into them.
>Unfortunately, not all do, and not all have both Tie In and Tie Out. None 
>of
>the DAK alphabets have Ties of any kind.
>
>  When using lettering, zoom in on the stitches and use the Stitches Tab in
>the tree to go forward and backward in the actual stitches to see if Ties
>exist. If Tie stitches are there, then what you see is what is built into
>the alphabet file. Look at both the beginning stitches and the ending
>stitches to insure they are at both ends.
>
>  Design Shop has the ability to add Ties. If more are needed, use the
>Lock/Trim TAB from the Properties page to turn them on. I suggest using 
>Type
>1 for lettering for both Tie Ins and Ties outs. If an alphabet already has
>some in it, these will be added to what is already there. These added Ties
>cannot be seen by zooming in on the wire frame or OFM file. To see them,
>save the file as EXP, then open the EXP file and examine them to insure 
>they
>are there. The new version of Design Shop, version 5.xx.xxx has the ability
>to view these stitches in the OFM file. Go to the Properties Page, then
>click on the View Tab and turn on viewing of Tie Stitches. These added
>stitches can now be viewed in the Stitches TAB on the right side with the
>Object Tree in the Wire Frame File or OFM file without having to save the
>file as EXP first. The Edit Stitches feature can be used to move them and
>edit them within the OFM file if needed.
>
>Frank has asked about Micro Block CP. The CP stands for Closest Point. The
>Micro Block CP alphabet does not have Tie Out Stitches. When an alphabet is
>set to Closest Point, then Tie Out stitches are NOT used except at the last
>letter. The idea of CP is not to trim on small letters as the lettering is
>small enough it is not noticeable unless inspected at a close distance. To
>get Tie Out stitches, turn OFF the CP check mark in the Lettering 
>Properties
>page and even though it does not trim between letters, there will be Tie 
>Out
>Stitches. Again, this can be seen by saving the file as EXP, then opening
>the EXP file, Zoom in on the letters and then click on the Stitches TAB of
>the Tree and using the up and down arrow keys go forward and backward in 
>the
>file to see the stitches. In the new version 5 Design Shop or 2004 
>Software,
>lettering has been improved with many changes. There is no longer a Closet
>Point check mark. There is a Connections: pull down window. When wanting 
>Tie
>Out Stitches use either As Digitized or Bottom Connection. The Closest 
>Point
>selection acts the same way as in earlier versions and will not make Tie 
>Out
>stitches except at the last letter.
>
>  There was also a post from Shannon Gorman about the use of Boffo-DAK and
>having problems with the stitches coming unraveled. As I stated before, the
>DAK alphabets do not have built in Tie Stitches. Shannon was turning them 
>on
>and was still experiencing stitches coming loose. I would have to know what
>size of letters were being used etc., but at times the added Tie Out
>Stitches to the lettering may not be enough. This can be very frustrating.
>This is dependent on a couple of things. One is the size of the lettering,
>and 2nd is the garment type. It is harder to get a Tie Stitch to work with
>large letters than with smaller lettering as the column stitches are wider
>the larger the letters. It is also harder to get good locks on a sweatshirt
>than on a denim due to the softer and more pliable material. There a few
>different methods people have used to correct this. One is to add more lock
>stitches or modify them to provide better locks. To do this Convert To Wire
>Frame. Then add a few Tie Out Stitches to the end of the letters using a
>Manual Walk Stitch. Another more time consuming method is just what Shannon
>was doing and add a few hand stitches to the ends of the troublesome
>letters. Another method that has worked for some is use Fray Check on the
>back side at the ends of the problem letters. This is a type of glue for
>fabrics that will help glue the thread together at those areas. It is
>washable and with stands dry cleaning.
>
>  Shannon also emailed me privately and was having trouble with the Brody
>Font doing the same thing. Brody does have Tie Out Stitches built into it.
>But, depending on the garment and size of the letters being used, turning 
>on
>Tie Outs between the letters to add more may be needed. If these are still
>not enough, then adding or modifying what is there may be needed as well.
>Brody is a pretty wide font and is of a script type that letters vary in
>width at the ends.
>
>  To really see what is going on with the problems I need the OFM and or 
>the
>EXP files of the design to look at. I would also be willing to look at
>problem files with anyone over the phone so I can walk you through it at 
>the
>same time so each of you learn and be able to analyze them and know what is
>needed. Send me a private email and I will try and arrange a time.
>
>  I would like to hear from some of the other embroidery people on this 
>list
>as to what methods they use when running into problems of this type. There
>is no one way to make something work correctly and the more methods we have
>the better we can make it.
>
>  I apologize for being late on posting this. I have been pretty busy 
>lately
>and have not been able to put the time into this user group I would like 
>to.
>
>  Sincerely,
>  Jeff Banks
>  Melco Embroidery Systems
>
>
>
>
>
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