[amayausers.com] Re: Ju Jitsu Gis
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Does anyone have advice for sewing on Ju Jitsu Gis? These are not the regular
Karate Gis, but the really thick Judo type. I've been doing jacket backs for
several guys and have run into some problems. Some are thicker than others,
(not the guys, but the gis) and even more difficult to hoop. The designs are
100,000 plus stitches. Been using the 16" square wood hoops. It's like hooping
a rug. I've got the bottom hoop as loose as it will go and still have to apply
lots of pressure and sweat to hoop the garment. (major double seams) Just
getting the hoop on the machine is a wrestling match. A card table with a
wooden stool on it supports the hoop mostly level and holds up the gi. Even
though the tracing showed the design was well within the hoop, my needle hit
the hoop. I'm guessing that the weight of the gi pulled forward and brought the
hoop just close enough to strike. I had 88,000 stitches completed with only
12,000 to go. I decided rather than risk the needle bars, to unhoop
the jacket and use the fast frames to finish the last row of letters. It took
forever lining up to be even with the already sewn out letters.
I used a fill stitch thinking it would be less likely to pull the thread than a
satin stitch during a fight. (The gis are used to pull and maneuver the
opponant, so they are very strong.) The fill stitch didn't cover enough, so I
ended up doing a satin stitch anyway by hand to fill in the fill stitch. The
second gi got all the way to the letters again, and I kept getting axis errors,
rebooting and moving back to the correct stitch. After several of these
wonderful events, somehow the thick fabric forward from the hoop got caught in
the needle case mechanism after a trim and when the machine moved, it unhooped
the garment, so back to the fast frames. This one I didn't line up as well, so
I'm planning on doing a black fill stitch over the white lettering and doing
the lettering all over again. (It's a black gi.)
The fabric broke 14 needles on the 2 gis. Some were on the needle plate, I
suspect because the weight of the fabric helped pull the needle. I used both
75/11 and 80/12.
Questions: 1) What's the best way to hoop a big jacket back with such bullet
proof fabric?
2)Is there a special needle for this kind of dense fabric?
3) Does anyone else out there in Amaya land work with these kinds of gis?
I went to the Arnold Fitness Festival Grappling tournament yesterday and my gis
looked fantastic next to all the screen printed and embroidered patches. I was
passing out my card left and right so there seems to be a nice niche there. Any
advice that might make the embroidery experience less difficult, would be
greatly appreciated.
I do think my hooping fee is going up. It took 2- 15 hour days to do just the
two gis. Once I find a method that works, I'm sure I won't take so long.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
Genie Z
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