This message was posted by v-embroidery on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/794.html#000002 Yes, I am using DS Pro+. I tried doing it on my own using various values but was not satisfied as I could still see the fabric through the satin stitch. Should I stitch underlay? Here are the values I used for my test sewout: Column Tab Stitch Type: Satin with Auto Split on Density: 4pt Max. length: 80 pt Min Stitch length: 15 pt Short stitch: OFF Underlay: NONE =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================