This message was posted by Pure Embroidery on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/229.html#000002 Cautious with presser foot height. Some say all up, some say part way up, ect.... I set mine all the way up, then down two or three clicks depending on the hat. I see some fundamental things you want to look at and possibly change. First, no 65/9 needles on hats. They flex too much. If you are using 60 weight thread, then use a 70/10 sharp point, otherwise use a 75/11 it will work better. (65/9 is great for small lettering on flats, not on hats) Second, your density seems high for that size lettering. Try a single line center underlay and move your density to a 4 or 5. Setting your speed to 850 is not slow for that size of lettering on hats. Go to 600-700 for the lettering. This will also help with the needle deflection. Slower speeds mean less deflection. Yes it takes more time, but quality is better and frustration is less. Now, do you have enough backing for your hats? Even if they are constructed hats, use a layer of backing. I use two layers on unconstructed. Now, for the lettering sequence, turn off the auto-density thread feed and use a fixed setting. Try a 6 and see how that does. Do you have your lettering set to sew from center outward? If not, you should try that. Use your oops hats to practice the lettering. Get rid of those crappy standard issue hoops and get some Hooptech frames! Just my opionion. I have used and still use both, but find the Hooptech frames so much easier to use and much more consistent. Having said all that. It is what works for me, my hooping style and my machines. Everyone does it just a little different, and maybe this won't work for you and others may have something to add. I've done over a 500 caps and visors now with dozens of different designs and I don't even think twice about accepting these jobs because I have a "system" that works for me. I hope it will work for you too. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================