And Gildan and Port Authority are actually 6.1 oz not 7 oz Aaron Sargent The Linen Barn linen@xxxxxxxxxxx 541-770-2957 Medford, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: r.rinehartsr To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Holes in tshirts Hey Roland!! Debbie here! What tees are 7oz. besides Port Authority and Gildan? I have searched for a really heavyweight tee (even though many of them call their shirt a heavyweight, they aren't). Thanks!!!!! Debbie Rinehart Deb'z-N-Stitches www.debznstitches.com 765-342-7392 ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland R. Irish III To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Holes in tshirts Because teeshirts are the absolute worst garbage material you can think of embroidering on...most shops won't even touch them. You need several layers of 3 oz. backing just to get a stable base... standard teeshirts are only 5.5 to 6.5 oz. material, decent 100% cotton heavyweights might be 7 oz., and some of the real good premium weight shirts can be 8 oz. But it is not a pique knit or poplin, heavy weave material-it's a lightweight fabric that just isn't made for embroidery. You have to back off on density-the needle is making the holes, the thread is tightening up and exposing it-and the material itself will rip easily, very very easily, so after you've punched a hundred holes in a half inch area for embroidery-then the thread tightens up and pulls it in... instant hole! I won't do teeshirts. Period! Just not worth embroidering on anything that costs LESS than the thread price to sew on it. The only way around it is a ton of backing-then it looks and feels like you have a patch sewn on the inside of the shirt and is very noticeable. My opinion... Roland Sunrise Graphics 116 Main St Claremont, NH 03743 603-543-1324 NO PC or WORD files accepted! Anything with .doc, .xls, .wvm, .txt, is automatically deleted. We have NO ability to view, read, or process any files from any Windows or PC based programs. Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc. but not for graphics. Photoshop (v.6) for images to be digitally printed. ANY sign and logo work must be supplied in Vector lineart (macromedia Freehand) without any compression or .eps. signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Darlene Weber wrote: Can anyone give me some ideas as to why I get holes in tshirts when I am stitching lettering on them??? Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.