[amayausers] Fw: pricing advice thank you

> Thank you Roland, for the great feedback and suggestions.  And thanks 
> again
> to everyone who took the time to answer.  I'm always learning valuable 
> things from y'all!
>
> Best,
> Sandra Walker
> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
> Montgomery, Texas
> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:46 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>
>
>> Sandra...you need to find a subcontractor that will supply the
>> shirts, etc.
>> for your job-instead of you shipping both ways.
>> I do a lot of small sub jobs for other engraving shops and such-and
>> make it
>> clear up front that I prefer to supply the goods-so I know what I am
>> getting,
>> and also I get a few extra. So they don't pay the freight-only for
>> the finished
>> goods. 34 shirts IS a small job...and my price list has a break at 36-
>> so I would
>> have tried hard to get the customer to take 2 more...usually works.
>> But the CUSTOMERS have to be educated-that SMALL orders just are NOT
>> going to be cheap per shirt-I had a guy come in late Thursday that
>> wanted
>> iron on's to add his name, etc. to his 'work shirts' for the highway
>> dept.
>> He thought I could just whip them out on a printer and he could iron
>> them
>> on at home-for $1 APIECE! After 30 minutes I still don't think I had
>> him understanding
>> that there was no way I could supply him with anything he could 'iron
>> on' AT HOME,
>> on WORN CLOTHING....that would stick.
>> Would he order new shirts so I could screen them? Nope....somehow he
>> thought
>> he could get it done for $1 a shirt.
>> No difference with commercial accounts-they get prices for 144 or 288
>> shirts-and then
>> come back expecting to order just a dozen AT THE SAME PRICE....
>> so I have to explain-no matter if I do 1 shirt or 1000 , I already
>> have an hour and a half
>> of labor for the job-setup, design time, burning a screen, washout,
>> and then cleanup and
>> stripping afterwards. No matter how many. Embroidery...still have to
>> digitize the design-
>> no matter how many. So the fewer they get, the more it costs.
>> If you can educate the customer-you can get the jobs and still make
>> money.
>> Most people now adays don't even think about 'freight'...when they
>> pay $9.95 for
>> 'shipping and handling' to get a CD off the late nite tv...it really
>> only costs about 75¢
>> but they don't think about it. So go ahead and add the freight in
>> separately...I'll bet the
>> competition does the same thing.
>> Roland
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Roland.
>>> Yes, I have a Sanmar account (I love that company!) and get free
>>> shipping on
>>> orders over $200, free catalogs, personalized website, etc.  And I
>>> haven't
>>> done $20K worth of business with them yet, but they still go out of
>>> their
>>> way to work with me.  So I don't use any other suppliers.
>>>
>>> Some of my orders are small and don't amount to $200 to qualify for
>>> free
>>> shipping, although I try to group orders to meet that threshold
>>> when I can.
>>> What I was referring to in my earlier email was paying to drop-ship
>>> from
>>> Sanmar to a subcontractor, say the Beauregards in Vermont, and then
>>> paying
>>> the shipping from Vermont to me on the finished goods.  On a recent
>>> quote I
>>> worked on for 34 tee shirts, the combined UPS ground shipping came
>>> to $41;
>>> priority mail would have been even more - YIKES!  That adds a lot
>>> to the
>>> price I have to get for things I sub out.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Sandra Walker
>>> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
>>> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
>>> Montgomery, Texas
>>> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:10 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sandra, if you can get setup with Sanmar as a commercial account, you
>>>> don't pay
>>>> shipping on orders over $200.00 which is how I do it.
>>>> And customers always pay the shipping-even on the low price 'import'
>>>> deals
>>>> I get through ad specialties...so unless there is a big multihead
>>>> house nearby
>>>> that you are competing with-there is always a freight charge.
>>>> Roland
>>>>
>>>> Sunrise Graphics
>>>> 116 Main St
>>>> Claremont, NH 03743
>>>> 603-543-1324
>>>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>>>> Photoshop (v.6) for images, artwork, logos-preferred for logo and
>>>> sign work is Macromedia Freehand, any version, sent
>>>> to our email-we are all MAC based graphic programs here
>>>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Sandra Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in Texas, just North of Houston, and so far the shipping cost
>>>>> from
>>>>> Sanmar to the contractor + shipping finished goods to me has been
>>>>> prohibitive.  Either I eat the shipping and lose money (which I
>>>>> can't afford
>>>>> and would be dumb anyway) or the potential customer goes someplace
>>>>> else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Haven't been able to figure a cost-effective way to do this yet.
>>>>> Am I
>>>>> missing something?  Or is there somebody out there close to me who
>>>>> does
>>>>> contract work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Sandra Walker
>>>>> A&E Clothing and Embroidery
>>>>> 936-588-1015  800-291-6953
>>>>> Montgomery, Texas
>>>>> www.companycasuals.com/aeclothing
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "r.rinehartsr" <drader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone on the list from the mid-section of the nation doing
>>>>>> contract work?
>>>>>> Debbie Rinehart
>>>>>> Deb'z-N-Stitches
>>>>>> Martinsville, In.
>>>>>> 765-342-7392
>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  From: Linen Barn
>>>>>>  To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:12 AM
>>>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Re: Need pricing advise
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It depends on what the market will bear.  If they were selling
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>  for $12 then they probably want to still sell them for that and
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>  profit.  If I were to bid this I would do them for $7 each.  Now
>>>>>> I have
>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>  heads so running 100 hats at 7500 stitches would take me 8-10
>>>>>> hours on my
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>  head.  Making $500 on my 2 head is not bad considering I do
>>>>>> contract work
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>  it all the time where I make $300 a day.  You can send the hats
>>>>>> to me and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>  would do them as contract work for $3.50 each and you could make
>>>>>> $1.50
>>>>>> per
>>>>>>  hat for doing nothing other than drop shipping the hats to me and
>>>>>> delivering
>>>>>>  them.  Or as Roland said you can have one of the overseas or large
>>>>>>  embroidery places do them for $4 each and make $3 a hat for
>>>>>> contracting
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>  out.  Sometimes the smaller shops eigher have to contract out,
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> little
>>>>>>  money per item or pass on orders to make it.  There is no reason
>>>>>> to run
>>>>>> low
>>>>>>  paying jobs on a single head which ties it up so you can't get
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>  paying jobs done when you can have contractors do it that are
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> making
>>>>>>  the lower $$$ per item but are reliant on quantities.  You also
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>>  sure that if you do contract it out that you use one that does
>>>>>> quality
>>>>>> work
>>>>>>  with good turn times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Aaron Sargent
>>>>>>  The Linen Barn
>>>>>>  linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>  541-770-2957
>>>>>>  Medford, OR
>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  From: "Susan Davidson" <Sewfly@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>  To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:35 PM
>>>>>>  Subject: [amayausers] Need pricing advise
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am in the process of putting in a bid for a hat order and am in
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have already digitized the logo in question.....the group really
>>>>>> likes
>>>>>>> it.....but I want to stay competitive.  I am sure that my stitch
>>>>>>> count
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> much higher than the last shop that did hats for this
>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>> (My
>>>>>>> husband purchased for $12.00 one of the other's hat so that I
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>> apples to apples on the hat itself.  And I see my logo is
>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> more detailed.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My stitch count is in the 7500 range.  The hat price per piece/
>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>> dozen
>>>>>>> is $2.50 and by the dozen it is $1.97 regardless of how many
>>>>>>> dozen I
>>>>>>> purchase.  The hat is Otto's mesh 19-366, however, I am going to
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> Otto's mesh 27-364.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated, I know this is a
>>>>>>> dilemma
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> many.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>> Sewfly Embroidery
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