Hi David http://www.briarhillglen.com/flag.htm Here is a flag I did for my town. The letters on the yellow I think are what you are asking about. Lets see if I can explain how I did it . The letters are 2" tall I did sew out each individual letter then I drew the inner and outer circles on the yellow material . I also drew a center circle so I could center the letters. I laid out my letters where I wanted them. Then I drew a straight line thru the middle of the circle through the center of the letter all the way to the outside of the circle . This gave me a direction to line up the hoop. I did have to do one letter at a time. Also it is good to use an erasable marker on the center circle the straight line marks I could put on the outsides of my circle and line up the center of the hoop marks and the center of the circle. Kathy =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================