Well Deb there are mainly 2 opinions about hooping devices... The do's and the don'ts I use one and love it... It is no longer made... But there are many out there that work just as well.. I know someone that has never used a hooper and last I know, has one she never uses. If you want I can have her get with you on tricks she uses to hoop on a table. Now as for Fast Frames www.fastframes.com this is a hoop but is used for bags and otherwise hard to hoop items. They are about $125. John A Golden Stitch /////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul&Deb Monk" <dpmonk@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "amayausers" <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: [amayausers] Fast Frames Helloo All, Can you please share your solutions for hooping. I currently use the Melco hoops, on a table top, but as an inexperienced embroiderer, I don't feel confident hooping this way, and it's terrible hard to hoop shirts straight. Any comments about the Fast Hoops, and is there a Web site that shows these and their prices? As always, thanks so much for your help. Deb Prairie Stitches --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: amayausers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: amayausers-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx