This message was posted by FME540 on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1035.html#000002 John, I'll take a shot at this. This sounds a lot like the problem with sewing on leather jackets. If you have too many stitches around the edge of the design it will almost punch out when done. Reduce the density of your stitching. Open it up to the limit of acceptable coverage. That limit will vary depending on the color of the capes and the threads used in the design but a starting point would be 6.0 and above. Turn off the underlay on your columns and fills. When doing light fills you should use the trapunto setting so the travel stitches are at the edge of the fills, not through the middle. Same thing with the columns. When using lighter density pay attention to the look of the underlay or just turn it off. Of course smaller needles will also help, 65 or so as a start Hope this helps. Or at least bump starts the discussion. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================