[amayausers] Re: EMC 10T

Thanks Ed for your advice.

I'll take another look and see if I can do it on my own, although
I'm sure I'll be calling a local tech before long.

Best regards

Dean

--- Original Message ---
From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [amayausers] Re: EMC 10T

>Dean,
>       You could have one of two scenarios..  If your needle bars are
in fact
>"stuck", they could be bent which would prevent them from
sliding smoothly
>which would render them "sticking or stuck".  The other is that
they have
>lost their calibration with the respect to the reciprocator due
to the fact
>that the rubber bumpers (3 per needle) that prevent metal
slamming against
>metal with each needle stroke (metal needle bar vs. metal needle
case) are
>worn, damaged, or in fact missing because they have fallen out
of the needle
>case.  This is probably your problem as it is a common one and will
>eventually be for all EMT owners.  Depending on the oil you use,
how much
>you oil your needle bars, how old the machine is, what the
climate is, and
>also how much usage each needle gets plays a big factor with
these rubber
>bumpers.  Truthfully, the official name for them are "rubber
dampners".
>       If you are mechanically inclined, you could replace them
yourself however
>the calibration procedure is kind of reserved for those who have
been to and
>paid for EMT training.  It's how we make our living.  That's not
to say you
>can't wing it on your own but if the settings are not set
correctly, you may
>wind up with more wear than you bargained for down the line and
ultimately
>have to replace more expensive parts as a result.  Also know
that there are
>two different size dampners and three required for each needle
bar.  A total
>of 30 and Melco sells them for a buck a piece.  Think of it as
having to
>replace your tires on your car every several years of usage.
>       Sure hope this helps.
>Ed Orantes
>Amaya/EMT/EMC Tech.
>New Orleans, LA
>504-258-6260
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dean Zellman
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:27 PM
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: EMC 10T
>
>
>Hi Ed:
>
>Some of my Emc 10 needle bars seem to get stuck and don't drop
as they
>should. I don't recall hitting hoops where the bar may have
bent.  How
>could I troubleshoot this.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dean
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:57 AM
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: EMC 10T
>
>
>I haven't heard of an EMC/EMT forum.  Having been manufactured
by Melco
>and being the Amaya predecessors, I wouldn't think there'd be an
issue
>discussing them here.  Also, as a tech for those machines in
addition to
>the Amaya, you're more than welcome to ask questions and talk
about them
>with me.  Besides, we're all one big happy family here. Ed
>
>Ed & Maralien Orantes
>E.M. Broidery
>900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>New Orleans, La. 70056
>504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dean Zellman
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:51 PM
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] EMC 10T
>
>
>I'm new to this forum as I plan to purchase an Amaya next month. I
>currently use an EMC 10T. Is there be a forum for this machine too?
>
>Thanks
>
>Dean
>Mr. Stitch Embroidery
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:09 PM
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
>
>
>Ed mentioned somrthing sometime back that still seems to be just
>amazing. While the Amaya is sewing and a stitch is being formed,
a given
>piece of
>
>thread will pass " back and forth" through the eye of the needle
>approximately  " 40 times " before it is acually laid down on the
>garment!!!!!!
>
>Now if that thread is placed in an extra bind because the needle is
>cocked to far off center...well.....just one more cause for a thread
>break to occur.
>
>Rod
>
>Embroidery Cottage
>Rod & Sharon Springer
>Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
>Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>
>Boise, ID  83713
>208-938-3038
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Marty Bies" <mbies@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:45 PM
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
>
>
>In training in Denver the instructor made it very clear that all
>machines leave the factory with the needles straight ahead.  He also
>said that the test sewout is done with the needles straight ahead as
>well.  He compared turning them to advancing the timing on your
car for
>performance.  You are changing the timing of the rotory hook to
>compensate for the thread twist and other factors as Ed
mentioned below.
>We have gone back and forth and have not noticed much of a
difference. I
>usually put them in straight.
>
>Marty
>J2H Design
>Elk River, MN
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R.
Irish
>III
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:33 PM
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
>
>Both the service tech that came here to test the machine, and
John in
>New Jersey, showed us that 'straight' needle is not
preferable-that they
>need the slight 'angle' or counterclockwise rotation. Wife
agrees with
>me that they both said FIFTEEN degrees but no one ever actually
sat down
>and measured it...my eyeball says if 'straight' is 6:00, then
the angle
>they showed us (and we've used it for a year) is 5:00. Now that
I know
>about what causes the 'tail' I'm going to watch out for over angle.
>Setting any of them straight is immediate thread breaks and
unraveling,
>doesn't matter sharp or ball. Roland
>
>> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:45 -0500
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
>>
>> Roland,
>> Wise men say, and this is for all embroidery machines, that
the needle
>
>> should be installed in the needle clamp so that the eye of the
needle
>> is straight front to back.  It should be perpendicular to the
rotary
>> hook point as the hook spins around to grab the thread passing
through
>the needle eye.
>> Very similar to the child riding the Merry Go Round horse
reaching out
>
>> to grab the big brass ring as he/she goes around (something I
once saw
>
>> in a 3D movie at Disney World).
>> The only reason you would choose to rotate your needle so that
the eye
>
>> of the needle would be offset by 5 degrees or so is to
compensate for
>> thread that has entirely too many twists in it.  Meaning that,
as the
>> thread tends to relax from being pulled straight as the needle
begins
>> it's upstroke, the thread would then twist slightly to the
right (due
>> to the standard cone wrapping direction) behind the needle and
just
>> out of position to be caught by the rotary hook point.  What
you would
>
>> experience would be intermittent missed stitches and then possibly
>> thread breaks due to an excess of top thread with no where to
go, and
>> only on those needles with the twisty type thread. I was recently
>> working with some rayon thread from Madeira that was more
curly than
>> not.  Although everything was sewing fine so we left the
needles in
>> their original positions. You would never want to turn your
needle to
>> the left unless your thread spool was wound backwards.  (I
have seen
>> some out there). Also, I believe 5 degrees to the right is maximum
>> that is recommended. Very slight indeed! Ed
>>
>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>> E.M. Broidery
>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roland R.
Irish
>> III
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:14 AM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: thread breaks - help
>>
>>
>> How about the angle the needle is 'turned' in the shaft? I've
had the
>> same problem (and now pretty much refuse to embroider on
'teeshirt'
>> material-just takes too much work) and after checking
everything you
>> mention, I find my wife (who does most of the setup) isn't
turning a
>> new needle to get the 15 degree or so angle counterclockwise.
Also, a
>> tendency to have the plate just a hair to the left of dead center.
>> Once I reset the needle and set the plate back to the right,
usually
>that stops it!
>> Another similar problem was fixed when we started replacing
the top
>> rollers at the 2 million stitch mark-worst thread breaks were
>> happening on the rollers with the most wear. Probably a
combination of
>
>> all 3 things but changing it helped!
>>
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