This message was posted by Greenwing on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/3/252.html#000005 Just for your information pattern 11 is also a satin so it is useless also. I have NO IDEA why they woud have two useless fills out of the few they give. Does anyone know Why out of all the software out there Design Shop is the only one that comes with NO pattern fills???? 16 usable textures no fills and really no way to create them.. I have several other programs that are able to do this with out a problem. The more I learn about DS the more I feel it is only an editing tool. as it constantly locks up and is not at all user friendly. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================