This message was posted by Just Sew It on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/61.html#000009 Jim, I have two 2005 Amayas and have always used the WACF on all the hats I do. On unstructured hats, I hoop firmly the band and pull the hat from the back down and clamp the material to the little bars with offset clamps. Hat doesn't move and sews well. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================