This message was posted by flebow on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/103.html#000008 We mainly deal with "delta formed wet laid" non wovens They are VERY soft and dense and entirely non directional. http://rnkdistributing.com/info.shtml#wetlaid They were developed in different weighst for single layer application The idea is to use one layer of the proper weight for your stitch count & stitch density and for the weight and stretch of your material. I do not like to be pinned down to #'s as there are far too many variables but here goes : a 2 oz cutaway "should"hold approc x 8,000 stitches - 1 layer a 2.5 oz 15-20,000 a 3 oz 30,000or abave There is really not a need for any more There is a 3.1 & a 3.5 oz "saturate" made by a company named Milyon in Mxico and distributed by Melco mart and a few other companies I believe that a 3 oz wet laid non woven, because of its density will hold as many or more stitches -single layer By the way - the shrinkage on these "wet laid" non wovens is approx 1-2% - far closer to 1% The mesh shrinks 3-5 % Some peo[le do steam and pre -shrink the mesh But the use of the no show nylon mesh is a whole different story as is the fusible mesh I would be glad to go over this on another thread Please feel free to e-mail me off list for samples to perform your own tests Sincerely Fred =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================