[amayausers] Re: Back to bobbins

I just spoke with Rod on the phone Ed.  He said, no, he has never seen any 
fine dust or powder in the bobbin case.  It stays very clean. And no, no 
sign of friction on the inside portion of the clear spool either.  We do not 
use the anti-vibration spring behind the bobbin either.  Gee--you guys sound 
like techs!
Sharon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Back to bobbins


> Sharon,
> Just curious, and since I don't have a handy price list, what's a ball 
> park
> price for a box of the plastic sided bobbins?  And I'm not being cute when 
> I
> ask this but have you noticed anything like a fine dust or powder inside 
> of
> the bobbin case when changing to a new bobbin?  Or do you see any signs of
> friction on the inside portion of the clear spool?  And do you use the
> anti-vibration spring behind the bobbin that comes with the bobbin case? 
> I
> always heard that was for use with the metal bobbin spools due to the
> friction created between the two metal surfaces.  Most recently, I've been
> running with only one side of the cardboard bobbin removed.. the inside
> wall.  That seems to be the side most vulnerable to friction and dust.
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:18 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help- Kris' Bad sew quality
>
>
> Hi Ed,
> Rod and I still swear by Neb bobbins (plastic sided).  We have been 
> running
> our machines for over 2 1/2 years with them and have only found lint in 
> one
> of the bobbin cases once.  There is almost no lint.  Just my two cents
> worth!
> Sharon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:08 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help- Kris' Bad sew quality
>
>
>> Yes, we also like the corners of business cards, post-it notes, deposit
>> slips, etc...  I've been trying to sew lately without the sides on the
>> bobbin spools to see if there was a notable difference in the amount of
>> dust
>> or lint that builds up.  Haven't quite had enough experience yet with 
>> this
>> to release my findings.  Down the road I will know if I should suggest it
>> or
>> not.  Although I do think it's an interesting option.
>> Ed
>>
>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>> E.M. Broidery
>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Linen Barn
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:31 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help- Kris' Bad sew quality
>>
>>
>> Business cards work great for cleaning the lint out of bobbins and won't
>> scratch anything.  Thats how we been doing it for years :)
>>
>> Aaron Sargent
>> The Linen Barn
>> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Medford, Oregon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: <specialk19@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:30 PM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help- Kris' Bad sew quality
>>
>>
>>> Kris,
>>> I received a copy of the scanned sew outs you sent to Herb.  At first
>>> glance, it looks like you are having some sort of interference in the
>>> thread/bobbin path after a certain length of thread or bobbin.  What I
>>> mean
>>> is that the tensions are changing but seem to be doing so consistently 
>>> to
>>> form a pattern.
>>> I would first suspect the bobbin and bobbin case.  Are you using
>>> "Polyester" type bobbin and not "Astra" type bobbins?   Be sure you are
>>> inserting the bobbin spool in the back of the bobbin case so that the
>>> bobbin
>>> thread comes off the spool in a clockwise direction.  You should also be
>>> sure that there is no lint or dust build up under the tension leaf as
>>> well
>>> as any lint balls in the small hole under the tension leaf.  Sometimes
>>> you
>>> can clean out a chunk of lint from under the tension leaf but there's
>>> still
>>> a lint ball in the hole that the bobbin passes through and it just won't
>>> come out until you use something like a pin.  I'm not an advocate of
>>> using
>>> pins or needles to clean out lint because some folks won't use restraint
>>> and
>>> can slip and scratch the vital areas of the bobbin case.  But sometimes
>>> you
>>> just need to use something that small to "pick" out the lint that's
>>> trapped.
>>> Lint in the bobbin case can create two problems: one where it binds the
>>> bobbin thread, increasing tension, and another where the lint lifts the
>>> tension leaf slightly whereby releasing the tension so that there is not
>>> enough.  These two types of problems can occur at any point and time
>>> while
>>> sewing.  So if you're scratching your head saying to yourself, it was
>>> running fine for a while and now I can't sew at all, this could be one 
>>> of
>>> your problems.
>>> Be sure that the bobbin thread runs through the "pigtail spring" and 
>>> that
>>> the spring is not bent from it's original position or even missing.  You
>>> should always have an extra bobbin case to try if you suspect that
>>> something
>>> is not right with the one you are using.  DO NOT check your bobbin
>>> tension
>>> with the bobbin thread in the "pigtail spring" -if you are doing the 
>>> "YO-
>>> YO" check or "bounce" check.  Only check your bobbin tension with the
>>> bobbin
>>> thread after it comes out of the bobbin case and just before you pass it
>>> through the "pigtail" spring.
>>> The tension should be at a point where, holding onto the bobbin thread
>>> with
>>> one hand, the bobbin case is just about at a point where it wants to
>>> start
>>> to slide down but does not slide at all.  Opinions vary on this subject.
>>> But this is how I run with my bobbin tension and I feel better about the
>>> results.  With the slight added tension, I may have to increase my
>>> material
>>> thickness up a notch or so -however that is easy enough to do.  When
>>> checking your bobbin tension, always keep one hand under the bobbin case
>>> so
>>> that you don't accidentally drop the case on the floor.  This is not 
>>> good
>>> for the bobbin case at all.  Fortunately they are cheap enough to 
>>> replace
>>> if
>>> you dent or scratch it.
>>>
>>> The other thing I'm thinking is that the thread is not coming off it's
>>> spool on the thread palette smoothly.  If your machine is new, chances
>>> are
>>> you are using all ARC thread.  And if you are using all ARC thread,
>>> chances
>>> are you have a spool where the label around the top hole is torn or
>>> choppy.
>>> And if the thread tube is too low (not pushed up high enough) then
>>> there's
>>> a
>>> chance the thread is snagging on the label, or anything else for that
>>> matter, and giving added resistance after a certain length of thread. 
>>> Be
>>> sure to inspect the entire thread path from the top of the machine to 
>>> the
>>> bottom of the machine as she runs to see if anything strange presents
>>> itself.  With experience, you will be able to study the different areas
>>> of
>>> the thread path and deduct important information when problems occur.
>>> Let us know if either of these two areas are causing your problems.  If
>>> not, we'll keep at it.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>>> E.M. Broidery
>>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kris Nesheim
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:48 PM
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help
>>>
>>>
>>> It seemed like he thought I should schedule a tech when I talked to him
>>> today. Could be a manual timing thing, with the x and Y motors?
>>> HK Acree <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Neil,
>>> Please elaborate on " Tech at Melco had me turn my adjustment
>>> counterclockwise all the way to 0" part.
>>>
>>> Herb
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kris Nesheim"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:29 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Help
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tech at Melco had me turn my adjustment counterclockwise all the way to
>>>> 0,
>>>> and material thickness down to 2 for broadcloth. We had the same
>>>> results.
>>>> This was before I made adjustments to the rotary hook. problem with the
>>>> rotary hook that I noticed was the needle guard gap seemed non 
>>>> existent.
>>>> After adjusting it, it sewed out with the same results. I then rebooted
>>>> both computer and machine and had one good sew out, and changed colors
>>>> and
>>>> had another bad. Went to the good sew out color and had another faulty
>>>> sew
>>>> out. Checked adjustments on rotary hook and am still satisfied with
>>>> previous adjustments. Thanks for your input. Neil
>>>> Russell Silva wrote: Presser foot height is
>>>> also very important, I was just doing a design
>>>> earlier today and forgot to lower it and got a lot of thread breaks,
>>>> when
>>>> I
>>>> lowered it they went away, might not be the problem but worth looking
>>>> at.
>>>> Russell Silva
>>>> R. S. Embroidery
>>>> 508-222-4433
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kris Nesheim"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if anyone could give us any ideas on our first Amaya
>>>>> problem. Alot of
>>>>>
>>>>> thread breaks and to us not the usual running sound. Talked to Melco
>>>>> ,said to run
>>>>>
>>>>> sample design for thread breaks. Did that and part of the design looks
>>>>> ok,
>>>>> and then in the
>>>>>
>>>>> middle of it the sew out looks way different no bobbin showing and
>>>>> thread
>>>>> breaks galore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions or do we just schedule a tech? Anyone know one in the
>>>>> Chicago land
>>>>>
>>>>> area? We only have one machine and need to get up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kris
>>>>> Nesheim
>>>>>
>>>>> Embroidery
>>>>> Ink.
>>>>> Norridge ,
>>>>> IL
>>>>>
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