[amayausers] Re: Amaya Specific Digitizers Myth

Anand,

I think there are different levels of what would be considered a "contract 
embroiderer".  I do contract work for 4 large ASI's to the sum of about 60% 
of my business.  The other 40% is my own customers that I charge the same 
per thousand but make $$$ of garments as well.  I am a 12 head shop with 2 
full time and 2 part time employees including myself and my father 
(partner).  Our annual sales are in the $450,000 range and we make a descent 
living.  I charge 50 cents per thousand for the most part and with one 
contractor I will get as low as 30 cents per thousand at time but she sends 
me 70k a year in contract work.  The contract work has always kept me busy 
and my machines running while my own customers that I make $$$ off the 
garments help balance things out.  I have more work than I can usually 
handle 9 months out of the year and the other 3 are busy but not crazy busy, 
like I am now.

I agree that many contract embroiderers out there do charge 5-25 cents per 
thousand and at that rate without doing any retail work where you make money 
off the garments you would have to do 5k pieces a day.  An average day for 
us is around 300 - 500 pieces a day.

Aaron Sargent
The Linen Barn
linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
541-770-2957
Medford, OR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kesavan" <kesavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Amaya Specific Digitizers Myth


> Rod,
>
> I am not sure if you run any other machines along side the Amaya.  I do
> I find that all the designs that I run on the other machines run equally
> well on the Amaya. That=92s why I stated that special digitizing for the
> Amaya is a Myth.
>
> I am an mm (millimetre) person so how do you compare 5 points to 10
> points in mm converted? The smallest I would recommend in lettering is
> 4mm and I have no problem with that on the Amaya.=20
>
> When I bought my Amaya I tested one of my designs to make sure it runs
> the same as one of the other brands of machines including metallic
> thread. The machine ran at 1200 spm with metallic. The Australian Melco
> Agent will confirm or deny that. I have to slow my other machines down
> to run metallic.
>
> I am not beating my drum here about my digitizing because... There are a
> lot more digitizers out there that are heaps better... I gave up doing
> work for other new embroiderers a long time ago because of injury
> (carpel) due to too much digitizing. Id still look at a design to help a
> newbie though without charge.
>
> Unrelated - About Business Practices - I read a book about finite and
> infinite business practices and Toyotas production practice as in cars
> not embroidery machines + business practices of the tiger economies.
> There was heaps to learn.
>
> My Guess is Any one aspiring to be a contract embroiderer would have to
> charge 5 to 25 cents per 1000 stitches and turn around 5k to 10k
> embroidered designs per day. Any one on the list please correct me if I
> am wrong.
>
> Anand
>
>
>
>
>
> Anand,
> The major differences with the Amaya and digitized designs is the speed
> and=20
> needle placement. Probably what we should be talking about in this=20
> discussion is not digitizing, but editing of designs in general. Two
> things=20
> about the Amaya I and others have noticed, is that the Amayas do not
> like=20
> short stitches in a design and along the same line, it does not like
> super=20
> small columns, as in small lettering. The cure for this is to learn how
> to=20
> use the software.h
>
> An example of this is to select the entire design, Properties, Column
> and=20
> at the bottom of the display window, change the "minimum column width"
> to 10=20
> points instead of the default 5 points. This plus the ability to adjust=20
> thread feeds, material thickness, stitch lengths, reduce overall
> stitches,=20
> etc, etc, will make it possible to edit any design to run flawlessly
> with an=20
> absolute minimum of thread breaks.
>
> All anyone is saying about digitizing for the Amaya is that if the
> digitizer=20
> has an Amaya he can verify a given design on, he will usually do the=20
> footwork for the customer letting him know the best settings and speed
> he=20
> ran the design at to achieve the best results. If a person wants to slow
> the=20
> Amaya down to the slower speeds some of the other machines run at, than
> you=20
> may need less editing of individual designs. Some designs need quite a
> lot=20
> and others don't need any.
>
> Adjusting and editing designs so the Amaya can run at 12 to 1300+ does
> not=20
> make it an inferior machine in my book. An analogy would be kind of like
>
> having a high performance racecar. Feed it 85 octane fuel, it will still
> run=20
> but clean up the fuel and increase the octane and it will perform much=20
> better. The same applies to any given design--clean it up and it will
> run=20
> better on any machine, especially one that is running at high
> speed........
>
> Rod Springer
>
> Rod & Sharon Springer
> Embroidery Cottage
> Melco Amaya Technician & Trainers
> Design Shop Pro+  & Digitizing
> Boise, ID  83713
> 208-938-3038
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Kesavan" <kesavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:02 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] : Amaya Specific Digitizers Myth
>
>
>> My designs run well  on my  the happy, tajima and amaya .
>>
>> If  one had to digitze specially for the Amaya that would make the=20
>> Amaya an inferior machine in my books.
>>
>> A badly digitized design will run badly on every brand of machine.
>>
>> I would like to hear input from others who own other brands of=20
>> machines including the Amaya.
>>
>> Anand
>>
>>
>>
>> As John has pointed out-this already digitized design is NOT well=20
>> digitized and does NOT sew out well.
>> Yes, a 'well digitized design' WILL run better on all machines-but a
>> 'well digitized' design that is 'optimized' for an Amaya will run
> better
>> on that Amaya, and most likely superior on other machines. The problem
>> being with this design-that 'someone' thought it ran fine on their
>> system-and it looks like garbage. Customer isn't pleased with it-and
>> since John wants to put out a superior product, he wants to have it
>> digitized for his Amaya. What's the big deal? I understand exactly
> what
>> he is saying. I deal with garbage all day long from clients and even
>> their 'media agents' that think they know how to do graphics simply
>> because they are sitting in front of a computer that makes nice
> colors.
>> Just because their logo looks 'perfect' on their computer does NOT
> mean
>> it will work as the artwork I need to print their banner, or screen
>> their shirts...and means I have to 'digitize' it for each one of my
>> applications. Equipment specific digitizing-to get optimum results.
> Just
>> 3 days ago after several phone calls and emails explaining what I
> needed
>> for a ONE COLOR design for his bar glass imprints-my 'educated' client
>> sends me the result...a 72 dpi jpg in EIGHT colors. To him, that is a
>> one color image. Yup....1 color for the main
>> outlines and
>> larger areas-with 7 other shades or color fills.
>> This design I've looked at for John has multiple outlines and shadows
>> around 1/4" letters, 'shading' on 3/16" wide oval outlines, with back
>> shadow
>> behind those...no wonder it sews like mud!
>>
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