[amayausers] Re: Amaya Specific Digitizers

Rod

Certainly not wishy - washy at all and no arguments from me on anything 
you said.

For many of us, caps [along with other things like very light nylon or 
knits, leather, silk, etc.] certainly do offer challenges. I think we 
all have learned new words of one sort or another when stitching these 
items.

There are always many variables in embroidery plus I know different 
brands, models and even individual machines can stitch differently but 
as someone who does not have an Amaya, I was just wondering what 
constitutes a good Amaya design as compared to the same design for a 
SWF, Tajima or Barudan ?  If it is something like removal of unnecessary 
short stitches [perhaps less than 1mm - 1.5mm], to me that should be 
done in all designs for all machines. If its a matter of a good Amaya 
design trying to avoid long column stitching [for example 12mm], then 
again I think all brands of machines would benefit from shorter column 
stitching.

Just out of curiosity, is there a needle[s] which is favored by the 
Amaya. Over the years we have tried a number of different types, points 
and brands of needles but in the end, found a single needle that we now 
use for virtually all our stitching. Seldom do we have a need to change 
to a different needle type or size anymore.

Have a great day

Bob


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Rod or Sharon wrote:

>John, Bob,
>My personal opinion on "Amaya specific" digitizing....... I do believe that 
>the digitizer who "owns an Amaya, and who verifies the digitized designs on 
>the Amaya is a definite plus for the customer. That is not to say that there 
>are not some really good digitizers out there that are savy to the different 
>quirks of the different embroidery machines on the market.
>
>It is very difficult to digitize for caps with some designs....How do you as 
>the digitizer quote a fair price and not verify a complex design on a cap or 
>two or three. Do we throw in the cost of these caps on the digitizing cost, 
>thereby raising the price of the digitized design? Do we come up with a make 
>shift, make believe cap to put on the cap driver to verify the design......? 
>It is a time consuming affair at best and usually not very profitable, 
>taking into consideration the time factor. Those people that choose to sub 
>out their digitizing are not completely dumb. Sure, the simple, easy to put 
>together logo or name, etc.......those are things that you can take care of 
>yourself, but throw in a complicated, complex design and it very quickly 
>gets to the point of ridiculous with the time factor.
>
>Digitizing for flats is always a challenge by it's self and then CAPS!!! I 
>have found I can now do pretty fair at  digitizing most designs for a cap 
>but still struggle with oval and/or circular borders pulling, stretching, 
>distorting and God only knows what else. Each brand and style of cap can 
>exhibit a different characteristic with the same design, making it necessary 
>to then, "edit" the design slightly.
>
>Using good underlay techniques is critical to getting some caps to sew out 
>well.  Nailing down the center seam on a cap by adding a manual double 
>zigzag across the seam and/or filling the seam line with vertical stitching 
>and then using a wider manual cross hatch underlay over the rest of the 
>design, will help tack the cap down and not allow for the cap to move or 
>shift or whatever it does to mess up the sew out. Oh, and then given a 
>perfectly digitized design......nothing can correct for an improperly hooped 
>cap. If it is loose and floppy, ,,,,, well, kind of like the old computer 
>programmer saying,,,,,,,,,,garbage in, garbage out!!!
>
>Now having said all that, does the Amaya need to be digitized for 
>specifically? I would say there are some "ifs" involved in that question. 
>The biggest "if" is the speed at which you want to operate at. The faster 
>the speed, the more the different materials are going to "pull/push." So 
>digitizing  and being able to verify at high speed is a plus. The fact that 
>the Amaya is more precise in its needle placement will create narrower 
>columns making it necessary for the operator to add some extra pull comp in 
>these areas......
>
>The technology introduced into the Amaya software and the design of the 
>machine has just made it necessary for the operator to "learn" new ways to 
>embroidery. The Amaya/Design Shop software has given the operator tremendous 
>flexibility ,but, only "if" ( there is that "if" word again), they are open 
>and willing to take on this new learning curve.
>
>I would hesitate going so far as to say that the Amaya "must" be digitized 
>for specifically. If this were the case, you would not be able to sew out 
>any of the pre-digitized designs from , Dakota, Great Notions, Embroidery 
>Library, etc......with success. Will editing these designs by reducing the 
>stitch counts, tweaking the densities, stitch lengths, etc, help them to sew 
>better on the Amaya...you bet. But even  a good digitizer will send someone 
>a design that has been digitized on his Amaya, will need some minor tweaking 
>on the customers machine. The differences in machines, the different 
>materials, backings, hooping techniques, needles, threads...the list goes 
>on.......it just means that the digitizer hopes to get it "right" as close 
>as they can.....regardless of the machine used.
>
>Was that ...wishy---washy enough for a long winded answer ;-)).
>
>Rod Springer
>Melco Certified Tech
>  
>


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