You need to be careful with the slim line system too. I didn't pull the clamp down far enough and the top of the clamp just barely hit the needle case dropping my last two needles out. A tech had to come and fix (just before Mother's Day with several totes to finish). Anyway, always be careful. I do like the system though and worth every penny! Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 8/26/2006 11:02:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wishesinstitches@xxxxxxx writes: The ITCS is the system that was made first and is taller than the Slim Line. Same principal but the Slim Line was developed for the Amaya. The other one can hit the needle unit and do a lot of damage. We have the ITCS because it was all that was available at the time. We are very careful when using it but it is worth every penny for hooping thicker items like bags, leather cases, Christmas stockings, knit caps and lycra fabric. You can hoop but not stretch the lycra. If you are buying for an Amaya then you should purchase the Slim Line to prevent running into the needlecase. I plan on purchasing the Slim Line for our second machine. Margaret Alan and Margaret Jannuzzi Wishes in Stitches Embroidery 4502 W Buffalo, Chandler Az. 85226 480-216-3163 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:15 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: 7-in-1 Fast Frames This message was posted by laysondesigns on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/12.html#000006 What clamping system does anyone recommend? The Slim Line, ITCS, are there any others? Which are the better of these 2 systems? I've priced both and I know how expesive they are but if it's worth the money, that's not a problem. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================