This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/976.html#000009 Density...what's the density of the sewing on the center seam? Hat's must be digitized differently than shirts and flat sewing. The center seam on some hats can be 6 layers of cloth thick-take a look at them. You have the folded over edge of each panel (that's 2)plus a doubled bias tape under that (2 more) and then a 'cover strip' to keep the seam from irritating your forehead, doubled up to hide the edges-another 2! We've taken some apart to check. Lettering on hats has to be less dense (instead of 4.5 for example, try 6.5) with less or no underlayment. Short stitches off, minimum width 10. Sewing has to be from the bottom (brim) UP, and 'center' out. We gave up on the WACF hoops and went with just CCF on our Big Red and got much better results. Pressor foot down to the panel and back 1 click-leave the plain needle plate on-don't change it. (THAT made a big difference to us!) Sharp needles, slow speed, and magnetic bobbins kept the breaks down. Some designs-with a high density center logo-just are the worst thing to try on a 6 panel but with enough tweaking it can work! We found that the 'better quality hats' were the worst ones to sew on because of the extra layers down the seam-flexfit hats-customers love them-the Amaya hates them. There's a couple folks here that specialize in hats-hopefully one of them will jump in to give you some help! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================