[accessibleimage] Re: Re : Re: testing of tactile picture reading abilities

I would also very much appreciate receiving a copy of this paper.

Thank you for sharing.

Sylvie Kashdan, M.A.
Instructor/Curriculum Coordinator
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From: "Rosemary Fischer" <Rosemary.Fischer@xxxxxxxx>
To: <accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:07 AM
Subject: [accessibleimage] Re: Re : Re: testing of tactile picture reading 
abilities


I will appreciate receiving a copy as well. Thanks for your help.

rosemary.fischer@xxxxxxxx

   Rosemary




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From: accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fblind
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:55 AM
To: accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accessibleimage] Re: Re : Re: testing of tactile picture reading 
abilities

Hi Nigel

Can I please get a copy from it.
Thanks in advance.
Nadeen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Z. BEN FREDJ" <zbenfredj@xxxxxxxx>
To: <accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: [accessibleimage] Re : Re: testing of tactile picture reading
abilities


Can I please get one as well?

Zaineb



----- Message d'origine ----
> De : Rhonda Gregoire <rhonda.gregoire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> À : "accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Envoyé le : Lundi, 5 Octobre 2009, 12h30mn 55s
> Objet : [accessibleimage] Re: testing of tactile picture reading abilities
>
> I would love a copy of this paper as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rhonda Gregoire
> Braille Materials
> 2650 Bartels Road,
> Cincinnati, Ohio 45244
> 513-232-7770 ext. 2821
> FAX: 513-232-9047
> ________________________________________
> From: accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lisa Yayla
> [fnugg@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:20 AM
> To: accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [accessibleimage] Re: testing of tactile picture reading
> abilities
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Thank you very much. The file came through and am looking forward to
> read it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Lisa
>
> accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Hi Lisa,
> >
> > This is perhaps the most important question underpinning the whole
> > concept and viability of tactile graphics. Although I am not aware of
> > any specific tests, I have attached a paper that I presented at the
> > last ICEB Assembly. It perhaps creates more questions than answers but
> > it does propose some thoughts and examples related to the
> > interpretation of tactile graphics.
> >
> > It may be that the attachment is too large for the list. If you don't
> > get it please let me know and I will get it to you some other way.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Nigel Herring
> >
> > image001.jpg Pentronics
> >
> > 33B Sheppard Road
> >
> > EMU PLAINS NSW 2750
> >
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > PO Box 965
> >
> > PENRITH NSW 2751
> >
> > Tel. +612 4735 7355
> >
> > e-mail support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > web. www.pentronics.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > *From:* accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > [mailto:accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Yayla
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 1 October 2009 6:46 PM
> > *To:* Alternate Media; accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > *Subject:* [accessibleimage] testing of tactile picture reading
> > abilities
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering if anyone tests or knows of tests to determine a blind
> > reader's abiltiy to understand / read / interpret tactile graphics?
> > The reason I am asking this is
> > 1. if a blind reader is given a tactile to read and one does not know
> > the level of his/her abilities it can be frustrating (because too easy
> > or difficult) for that person.
> > 2. If a blind reader is testing a tactile graphic out, with the aim of
> > seeing if the tactile is an understandable graphic, and does not have
> > experience with tactile graphics the testing of the graphic might not
> > return a correct result. That is the graphic might be suitable for a
> > more experienced user while too difficult for the one testing it.
> > It is often assume that just because someone is blind and given a
> > tactile that they will understand it. It seems to be forgotten that it
> > takes time for both sighted and blind
> > persons to understand and interpret information graphics. Interpreting
> > pictures, diagrams, maps etc for both sighted and visually impaired
> > requires exposure and
> > experience. Pictures are a type of language that also must be learned
> > - either passivly or activly.
> > And then there are the cultural differences of pictures - how is this
> > taken into consideration?
> >
> > So my question is if anyone knows of tests etc to find out at which
> > level or abiltiy a blind reader is at concerning tactile graphics?
> > Thanks,
> > Lisa
> > Lisa Yayla
> > Huseby Kompetansesenter
> > Oslo Norway
> > lisa.yayla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -Scanned by Exchange Hosted Services-
> >
> > -Scanned by Exchange Hosted Services-
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hi Lisa,
> >
> > This is perhaps the most important question underpinning the whole
> > concept and viability of tactile graphics. Although I am not aware of
> > any specific tests, I have attached a paper that I presented at the
> > last ICEB Assembly. It perhaps creates more questions than answers but
> > it does propose some thoughts and examples related to the
> > interpretation of tactile graphics.
> >
> > It may be that the attachment is too large for the list. If you don't
> > get it please let me know and I will get it to you some other way.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Nigel Herring
> >
> > Pentronics
> >
> > 33B Sheppard Road
> >
> > EMU PLAINS NSW 2750
> >
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > PO Box 965
> >
> > PENRITH NSW 2751
> >
> > Tel. +612 4735 7355
> >
> > e-mail support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > web. www.pentronics.com.au
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:accessibleimage-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Yayla
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 1 October 2009 6:46 PM
> > *To:* Alternate Media; accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [accessibleimage] testing of tactile picture reading
> > abilities
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone tests or knows of tests to determine a blind
> > reader's abiltiy to understand / read / interpret tactile graphics?
> >
> > The reason I am asking this is
> >
> > 1. if a blind reader is given a tactile to read and one does not know
> > the level of his/her abilities it can be frustrating (because too easy
> > or difficult) for that person.
> >
> > 2. If a blind reader is testing a tactile graphic out, with the aim of
> > seeing if the tactile is an understandable graphic, and does not have
> > experience with tactile graphics the testing of the graphic might not
> > return a correct result. That is the graphic might be suitable for a
> > more experienced user while too difficult for the one testing it.
> >
> > It is often assume that just because someone is blind and given a
> > tactile that they will understand it. It seems to be forgotten that it
> > takes time for both sighted and blind
> >
> > persons to understand and interpret information graphics. Interpreting
> > pictures, diagrams, maps etc for both sighted and visually impaired
> > requires exposure and
> >
> > experience. Pictures are a type of language that also must be learned
> > - either passivly or activly.
> >
> > And then there are the cultural differences of pictures - how is this
> > taken into consideration?
> >
> > So my question is if anyone knows of tests etc to find out at which
> > level or abiltiy a blind reader is at concerning tactile graphics?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > Lisa Yayla
> >
> > Huseby Kompetansesenter
> >
> > Oslo Norway
> >
> > lisa.yayla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -Scanned by Exchange Hosted Services-
> >
>
>
>
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